This is how the racist right lies about Black voter turnout

TTQ64 said:
Here's my problem

You claim they can't be bothered to vote, but most can't vote.

Oh and Flash's post is full of shit as well.

They always skew polls to get the results they want.

And the results they want is for white America to think Blacks can't be bothered to vote and/or they only turned out for a Black man.

People turned out, 3 million more that voted for Hilary......it's the racist white man who cheated to put dump in office, not low voter turn out or low Black and "kid" voter turnout.

Why can't you see the BS they are feeding you?............because you don't want to see it. You're content with Blaming Blacks.
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Nonsense. We had two candidates with the worst favorability ratings in history. The numbers speak for themselves. Black turnout was down. Sure...the Obama benchmark is an artificial high.

Kids didn't bother to vote at all. Facts are pesky things. It's not about blame. Blame the DNC for Super Delegates. Blame Bernie for daring to run a campaign. Blame trump for appealing to Nazis.

None of this negates the fact that significant numbers of people couldn't be bothered to vote. Now they have an AG who misses the good ole days of slavery, and a Supreme Court that will back voter suppression efforts in Red states.


Prob. a bad election to have stayed home for. But...we'll get to revisit those statistics in less than 2 months.

Stay tuned.
 
Althea said:
Nonsense. We had two candidates with the worst favorability ratings in history. The numbers speak for themselves. Black turnout was down. Sure...the Obama benchmark is an artificial high.

Kids didn't bother to vote at all. Facts are pesky things. It's not about blame. Blame the DNC for Super Delegates. Blame Bernie for daring to run a campaign. Blame trump for appealing to Nazis.

None of this negates the fact that significant numbers of people couldn't be bothered to vote. Now they have an AG who misses the good ole days of slavery, and a Supreme Court that will back voter suppression efforts in Red states.


Prob. a bad election to have stayed home for. But...we'll get to revisit those statistics in less than 2 months.

Stay tuned.
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Like I said.

They always skew polls to get the results they want.

And it works.
 
Althea said:
Nonsense. We had two candidates with the worst favorability ratings in history. The numbers speak for themselves. Black turnout was down. Sure...the Obama benchmark is an artificial high.

Kids didn't bother to vote at all. Facts are pesky things. It's not about blame. Blame the DNC for Super Delegates. Blame Bernie for daring to run a campaign. Blame trump for appealing to Nazis.

None of this negates the fact that significant numbers of people couldn't be bothered to vote. Now they have an AG who misses the good ole days of slavery, and a Supreme Court that will back voter suppression efforts in Red states.


Prob. a bad election to have stayed home for. But...we'll get to revisit those statistics in less than 2 months.

Stay tuned.
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We will agree to disagree.

I will continue believing the racist right has been cheating for decades when it comes to votes.

You can keep believing Blacks and "kids" don't vote.

Even thought 3 million more people voted for Clinton.

umkay?
 
LV426 said:
Wrong.

The Constitution doesn't strip your voting rights away if you commit a felony.

The State of Florida is taking those rights away.
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Correct, because racist white men do.

It's the only way they can get into office, because otherwise no one would vote for them........just like the past election.
 
Althea said:
Nonsense. We had two candidates with the worst favorability ratings in history. The numbers speak for themselves. Black turnout was down. Sure...the Obama benchmark is an artificial high.

Kids didn't bother to vote at all. Facts are pesky things. It's not about blame. Blame the DNC for Super Delegates. Blame Bernie for daring to run a campaign. Blame trump for appealing to Nazis.

None of this negates the fact that significant numbers of people couldn't be bothered to vote. Now they have an AG who misses the good ole days of slavery, and a Supreme Court that will back voter suppression efforts in Red states.


Prob. a bad election to have stayed home for. But...we'll get to revisit those statistics in less than 2 months.

Stay tuned.
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where is the area?
 
LV426 said:
Wrong.

The Constitution doesn't strip your voting rights away if you commit a felony.

The State of Florida is taking those rights away.
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Never said the Constitution did that. That's you making up things again.

The States aren't taking them away. The States are setting standards and rules those voluntarily committing felonies violate. If someone chooses to do so, they are giving up those rights.
 
evince said:
DBT told state officials", testified Lee, "that the rules for creating the [purge] list would mean a significant number of people who were not deceased, not registered in more than one county, or not a felon, would be included on the list. DBT made suggestions to reduce the numbers of eligible voters included on the list". According to Lee, to this suggestion the state told the company, "Forget about it".
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the facts
 
evince said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Central_Voter_File#James_Lee's_testimony



James Lee's testimony[edit]
On 17 April 2001, James Lee testified, before the McKinney panel, that the state had given DBT the directive to add to the purge list people who matched at least 90% of a last name. DBT objected, knowing that this would produce a huge number of false positives (non-felons).[4]
Lee went on saying that the state then ordered DBT to shift to an even lower threshold of 80% match, allowing also names to be reversed (thus a person named Thomas Clarence could be taken to be the same as Clarence Thomas). Besides this, middle initials were skipped, Jr. and Sr. suffixes dropped, and some nicknames and aliases were added to puff up the list.
"DBT told state officials", testified Lee, "that the rules for creating the [purge] list would mean a significant number of people who were not deceased, not registered in more than one county, or not a felon, would be included on the list. DBT made suggestions to reduce the numbers of eligible voters included on the list". According to Lee, to this suggestion the state told the company, "Forget about it".
"The people who worked on this (for DBT) are very adamant... they told them what would happen", said Lee. "The state expected the county supervisors to be the failsafe." Lee said his company will never again get involved in cleansing voting rolls. "We are not confident any of the methods used today can guarantee legal voters will not be wrongfully denied the right to vote", Lee told a group of Atlanta-area black lawmakers in March 2001.[7]
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Gore won
 
CFM said:
Never said the Constitution did that. That's you making up things again.

The States aren't taking them away. The States are setting standards and rules those voluntarily committing felonies violate. If someone chooses to do so, they are giving up those rights.
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So then what's the point of serving a prison sentence, then, if "once a criminal, always a criminal"?

Why not just lock up criminals for eternity, regardless of the crime?
 
TTQ64 said:
We will agree to disagree.

I will continue believing the racist right has been cheating for decades when it comes to votes.

You can keep believing Blacks and "kids" don't vote.

Even thought 3 million more people voted for Clinton.

umkay?
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Wouldn't be the first time ;). But...you have to look at the numbers in the 3 states that gave trump the election. After all...we're talking about the electoral college...not the popular vote.
 
Althea said:
Wouldn't be the first time ;). But...you have to look at the numbers in the 3 states that gave trump the election. After all...we're talking about the electoral college...not the popular vote.
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The Electoral college is a sham.

It's part of the cheating they do.

So Blacks turned out in every state but 3 and it happens to be the 3 states that went for dump?

Does that really sound logical to you?
 
TTQ64 said:
The Electoral college is a sham.

It's part of the cheating they do.

So Blacks turned out in every state but 3 and it happens to be the 3 states that went for dump?

Does that really sound logical to you?
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That claim defies irrefutable polling numbers.

Not just 'non whites'. Kids too.
 
LV426 said:
So then what's the point of serving a prison sentence, then, if "once a criminal, always a criminal"?

Why not just lock up criminals for eternity, regardless of the crime?
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Who said "once a criminal, always a criminal"? Making up things again, huh?

If you don't like the rules about not allowing felons to vote, you have two choices. Get elected and change it or STFU whining.
 
TTQ64 said:
The Electoral college is a sham.

It's part of the cheating they do.

So Blacks turned out in every state but 3 and it happens to be the 3 states that went for dump?

Does that really sound logical to you?
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I suggest you start a movement to get the Constitution amended. If that's too much for you, I suggest shutting the fuck up.
 
CFM said:
Who said "once a criminal, always a criminal"? Making up things again, huh?
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Well, you're saying someone shouldn't have their voting rights restored by the state of Florida because they committed a crime.

So then that means prison doesn't rehabilitate people, which then begs the question why lock people up at all, and why not just keep them locked up indefinitely since they committed a crime?

If serving a prison sentence isn't paying your debt to society for the crimes you committed, then the prison sentence is pointless.
 
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