Trump Lied

Celticguy said:
Only thing they could do is make it cost more by reemoving insurance companies.
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That makes sense to you? Health insurance companies add many billions to the cost of health in America and do not provide any care at all. They stand between you and the doctors. They should be eliminated.
 
Gonzomin said:
That makes sense to you? Health insurance companies add many billions to the cost of health in America and do not provide any care at all. They stand between you and the doctors. They should be eliminated.
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No, they dont.
The margin in that business is rather low. And they do vastly better at eliminating fraud.

https://www.oregonlive.com/business...in-overbilling-but-refunds-prove-elusive.html

And thats just the 30 b they know about. Nevermind the hundreds of billions they dont know about.
 
Gonzomin said:
That makes sense to you? Health insurance companies add many billions to the cost of health in America and do not provide any care at all. They stand between you and the doctors. They should be eliminated.
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they administer.......their share of premiums has always been regulated by the states.......in Michigan, for instance they were required to distribute 93% of premiums for health care........they could keep only 7% for expenses and "profit".....until Obamacare, that is........then the federal government voided all previous state regulations.....
 
Hello Gonzomin,

Gonzomin said:
Silly meme. If Obamacare was dying on its own the Repubs would not have to deliberately attack it and try and kill it so often. Yet in spite of that and countless Repuvb votes against, it still stands. How many Republican votes to end it? You call that disinterest? Reds joining in Republican lying games and their own self-delusion is the only product.
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The PPACA would have been just fine if Republicans had not attacked it with intent to destroy. They looked for a weak spot, found it, exploited it, killed it. They couldn't come up with anything better but they were afraid it was getting too popular and couldn't stand to see a Democratic success story. The only reason socialism might fail in this case is because Republicans feared it and killed it. Too bad. It was helping so many people. How cruel. People will be dying because of Republican greed.
 
Hello and welcome CookieCrusher,

CookieCrusher said:
The truth is THEY ALL LIE.
lol
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I thanked your post not because I agree with you but because I respect anyone who can express them self without vitriol. I do not believe all politicians lie, but most of them certainly do. All the ones on the take from deep pocketed corporate legal corruption campaign backers are forced to lie. I can't think of a lie by Presidents Carter or Ford.
 
Hello CookieCrusher,

CookieCrusher said:
Obamacare was not sustainable.
There's not enough money in the world to sustain it for 330 million people....
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Certainly not using the for-profit method. Too many greedy hands dipping into the mix.

What is needed is a National Health Service where dedicated health care workers provide care with every bit of conviction and commitment to purpose found within our military ranks.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Celticguy,



If the profits are removed from the equation, and all other costs remain the same, the result is it costs LESS.

Simple math.
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If you ignore fraud.
Medicare knows if 30bil in fraud that they are unable to recoup. And they have no clue what the real tally is.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
They've been conditioned to blame every failure to deliver on anyone but the Toadstool, as well. You know, like the Wall that Mexico was going to pay for -- (D)s' fault, despite the (R)s have control of both Houses and the WH for two years.
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You hit the nail right on the head.
 
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