Trump Lied

ThatOwlWoman said:
They've been conditioned to blame every failure to deliver on anyone but the Toadstool, as well. You know, like the Wall that Mexico was going to pay for -- (D)s' fault, despite the (R)s have control of both Houses and the WH for two years.
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trump started it on day one. He went on and on about 'Obamacare is essentially dead', after ripping pieces of it apart. His number one concern, however delusional was 'nobody is going to blame me'.

Day one, it was all about blame for what he had in store for those he promised to 'take care of'.

'18 showed him who Americans blame. '20 will be worse.
 
rjhenn said:
And the Republicans have refused to do anything about those flaws. They hate the idea of health care that works for anyone but the rich.

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Truth is, they had to kill ACA before their tax giveaway. They wanted to get rid of the 2.8% cap gains tax on high earners that funds the Medicaid expansion. They failed.

As far as creating an actual healthcare plan for the country? That was secondary to the above referenced mandate.
 
Celticguy said:
There is no fixing the flaws. The entire design is shite.
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You have yet to show us that you understand anything about the ACA. You ran from your own thread when I asked your opinion on key aspects of your own link.

But by all means...keep doing drive bys with idiotic talking points. It makes you look like a stable genius.
 
John Barron said:
Trump said he could. He said he was the only one that could fix everything. Hasn't done it yet.
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I believe he claimed it would be 'so easy'.

Then:
Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump noted with some exasperation Monday the complexity of the nation's health laws, which he's vowed to reform as part of a bid to scrap Obamacare.

"We have come up with a solution that's really, really I think very good," Trump said at a meeting of the nation's governors at the White House.
"Now, I have to tell you, it's an unbelievably complex subject," he added. "Nobody knew health care could be so complicated."
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Nobody? Really?

Moron

https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/27/politics/trump-health-care-complicated/index.html
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Celticguy,



Obamacare is dying because it was attacked by Republicans.

Show us the better way.

What is the Republican plan?

Show us the better boat before you blow a hole in the bottom of the one we are on

Otherwise, shut up and keep paddling.
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He's already admitted to knowing nothing about ACA
 
Grumpy said:
That wasn't a lie but a campaign promise which are rarely kept. If the individual mandate is the only thing keeping Obamacare alive then it is a piece of shit program that needs to be repealed.
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LMAO. Keep reading. You aren't ready for this discussion yet
 
Althea said:
You have yet to show us that you understand anything about the ACA. You ran from your own thread when I asked your opinion on key aspects of your own link.

But by all means...keep doing drive bys with idiotic talking points. It makes you look like a stable genius.
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No one who i have ever chatted with about it who supported it has any understanding of the healthcare biz.
If they understood it it would be obvious why it could not work much less be affordable.
 
Celticguy said:
Only thing they could do is make it cost more by reemoving insurance companies.
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Purest ignorance. The rest of the developed world does just fine without insurance companies controlling their healthcare.

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Althea said:
trump started it on day one. He went on and on about 'Obamacare is essentially dead', after ripping pieces of it apart. His number one concern, however delusional was 'nobody is going to blame me'.

Day one, it was all about blame for what he had in store for those he promised to 'take care of'.

'18 showed him who Americans blame. '20 will be worse.
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Yes, this is probably going to be one of the UGLIEST campaigns in American history, and it will be 92% Toadstool doing the ugly. We thought '16 was horrible, what with mocking the disabled, the Gold Star families, "nasty woman," etc. He's got nothing to lose this time, and everything to gain. He's literally going to be fighting so he can stay out of prison.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello CookieCrusher,



Certainly not using the for-profit method. Too many greedy hands dipping into the mix.

What is needed is a National Health Service where dedicated health care workers provide care with every bit of conviction and commitment to purpose found within our military ranks.
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No, that's going a bit too far. What we need is single payer, Medicare for all, with improved coverage. Keep private providers. We need some competition at that level.

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PoliTalker said:
Hello Celticguy,



If the profits are removed from the equation, and all other costs remain the same, the result is it costs LESS.

Simple math.
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so who's going to administer the plan?.....who's going to make sure that administration is done efficiently?......even my Medicare Advantage plan is administered by a private insurance company doing it for a profit......
 
rjhenn said:
No, that's going a bit too far. What we need is single payer, Medicare for all, with improved coverage. Keep private providers. We need some competition at that level.
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I agree. Plus shutting down insurance companies would be a major blow to the economy. Basic Medicare for all; let private insurers offer supplemental coverage at market rates. I would definitely insist on the pre-existing conditions thing though... that they can't reject a customer if he/she has a pre-existing health issue. Compromise: let them charge a bit more on a sliding scale to be decided by law, based on the severity of the condition. I'm okay with actuarials losing their jobs.
 
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