Trump May Face 25 Years in Prison, Be Blocked From Future Office: Kirschner

[Dutch Uncle]

As well they should. W. is a war criminal. He lied us into a 20-year war costing us billions and thousands of lives.

It's a far cry from using a private server. Cheyney too. He sent Scooter to take the fall in prison for outing a covert agent.

Apples and oranges.

Who, like both Clintons, will never be held accountable for their actions. IMO, the same goes for Trump on the Federal level. On the state level, Trump is probably fucked. LOL

Agreed. Scroll up; I've posted several times that the degree is vastly different. Since when does that equate to looking the other way because it's a lesser crime?

 

[LurchAddams]

Who, like both Clintons, will never be held accountable for their actions. IMO, the same goes for Trump on the Federal level. On the state level, Trump is probably fucked. LOL

Agreed. Scroll up; I've posted several times that the degree is vastly different. Since when does that equate to looking the other way because it's a lesser crime?

You keep trying to put the Clintons in the same ballpark as Bush. You're an idiot if you think anything the Clintons did is worse than Bush/Cheney.

And again, if you think you have evidence the Clintons are guilty, go to the FBI with your evidence.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You keep trying to put the Clintons in the same ballpark as Bush.

You're an idiot if you think anything the Clintons did is worse than Bush/Cheney.

And again, if you think you have evidence the Clintons are guilty, go to the FBI with your evidence.

Wrong again; you do. I'm the one that has mentioned multiple times about degrees.

Feel free to call me names for it.

A primary reason America is in the fix it is now is because people like you want to let criminals go as long as they have the correct ideology. Look at the progression from Bill Clinton to Donald Trump and tell me you don't see a pattern there.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

I'll take your word for it. Are you saying her violations were equal to Trump's?

No, short of being an Aldrich Ames she couldn't top Trump.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Powell was a General and Secretary of State. Of course, he dealt in classified shit.

You ignore one major fact. Powell only used classified machines to process classified.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

You’d be wrong about his server being illegal, it wasn’t at the time and also him not having classified documents on it, because he did, as did Condi Rice

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news...ate-email-accounts-classified-hillary-clinton

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/...john-kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html

Thanks I was unaware of that.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You’d be wrong about his server being illegal, it wasn’t at the time and also him not having classified documents on it, because he did, as did Condi Rice

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news...ate-email-accounts-classified-hillary-clinton

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/...john-kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html

Thanks I was unaware of that.

Good links which tell the same story: Both Powell and Rice received emails with classified material. If they knew the material was classified, then they are duty bound to report it. If they didn't know, then that's clearly much different from Hillary intentionally sending unsecure emails with classified material.

From the link:

The State Department did not say who sent the emails to Mr. Powell or to Ms. Rice’s aides, or who received the messages.

It is against the law to have classified information outside a secure government account.

Of the nearly 30,000 emails from Mrs. Clinton’s server that have been released by the State Department under a court order, 18 emails sent to or from her have also been classified as secret, and 1,564 others have been classified at the lower level of “confidential.”

 

[Phantasmal]

Good links which tell the same story: Both Powell and Rice received emails with classified material. If they knew the material was classified, then they are duty bound to report it. If they didn't know, then that's clearly much different from Hillary intentionally sending unsecure emails with classified material.

From the link:

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...n-exaggerates-absence-classified-information/

 

[Dutch Uncle]

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...n-exaggerates-absence-classified-information/

Awesome!

Clinton exaggerates absence of classified information in her emails

Our ruling
Clinton claimed she had "zero emails that were classified."

At the conclusion of all investigations, no documents included in her emails were found to be marked as classified.

However, hundreds of bits of information that State Department officials considered classified did end up in emails on Clinton’s private server.

Clinton is technically correct, but she sidesteps the references to classified information that staffers introduced into the email chains.

We rate this claim Half True.

Was Hillary incompetent or did she know what she was doing?

 

[LurchAddams]

Wrong again; you do. I'm the one that has mentioned multiple times about degrees.

Feel free to call me names for it.

A primary reason America is in the fix it is now is because people like you want to let criminals go as long as they have the correct ideology. Look at the progression from Bill Clinton to Donald Trump and tell me you don't see a pattern there.

Comey, one of your fellow Republicans declared Hillary committed no crime. If you think she's guilty of something, take your evidence to the FBI or shut the fuck up.

 

[LurchAddams]

You ignore one major fact. Powell only used classified machines to process classified.

According to who?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Comey, one of your fellow Republicans declared Hillary committed no crime.

If you think she's guilty of something, take your evidence to the FBI or shut the fuck up.

That's not what he said, but I've come to expect all Hillary and Trump fans to declare their respective heroes "100% not guilty".

Now you might understand why 70% of American voters don't want to be Democrats: they are abusive, intolerant fuckwads.

 

[LurchAddams]

That's not what he said, but I've come to expect all Hillary and Trump fans to declare their respective heroes "100% not guilty".

Now you might understand why 70% of American voters don't want to be Democrats: they are abusive, intolerant fuckwads.

Translation: You got nothing but your Democrat hate. Sucks to be you.

 

[evince]

You’d be wrong about his server being illegal, it wasn’t at the time and also him not having classified documents on it, because he did, as did Condi Rice

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news...ate-email-accounts-classified-hillary-clinton

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/...john-kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html

Facts don’t matter to most right leaning people anymore

 

[evince]

That's not what he said, but I've come to expect all Hillary and Trump fans to declare their respective heroes "100% not guilty".

Now you might understand why 70% of American voters don't want to be Democrats: they are abusive, intolerant fuckwads.

Your Republican Party is the one doing all the cheating and lying Dutch


It’s sad you can only come halfway to accepting these facts

 

[evince]

Awesome!

Clinton exaggerates absence of classified information in her emails


Was Hillary incompetent or did she know what she was doing?

What she was doing was what everyone at her level were doing


All the courts saw no reason to arrest and punish her and all the others doing the same fucking thing



Yet here you are clinging to these lies to hate a good woman who actually served her nation

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Translation: You got nothing but your Democrat hate. Sucks to be you.

Wow. You're smarter than I thought. Good on you, dude!

As for your Democrat hate, do better. Hate begets hate.

https://csrd.asu.edu/content/mlk
"Violence begets violence; hate begets hate; and toughness begets a greater toughness. It is all a descending spiral, and the end is destruction — for everybody. Along the way of life, someone must have enough sense and morality to cut off the chain of hate."
-Martin Luther King Jr.

Be a chain-cutter, not a hater, dude.

 

[evince]

Wow. You're smarter than I thought. Good on you, dude!

As for your Democrat hate, do better. Hate begets hate.

https://csrd.asu.edu/content/mlk
"Violence begets violence; hate begets hate; and toughness begets a greater toughness. It is all a descending spiral, and the end is destruction — for everybody. Along the way of life, someone must have enough sense and morality to cut off the chain of hate."
-Martin Luther King Jr.

Be a chain-cutter, not a hater, dude.

Dutch

The Republican Party started doing election crimes under Nixon

Every Republican president including Reagan has cheated in elections because they can’t win in clean elections


COURT DOCUMENTED PROOF

Why do you deny those facts?

 

[evince]

I hate the Republican Party for good reason


They hate democracy



They hate the founders plan



They seek the dictatorship of the wealthy


And that included Reagan who was evil

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Your Republican Party is the one doing the cheating and lying Dutch


It’s sad you can only come halfway to accepting these facts

First, not my party since 2012, technically. Morally, not since they started attacking vets in 2000. Second, they aren't the only ones. Once you condone cheating and lying on one side, no matter how minor, then you open the doorway to assholes like Trumpism.

No one can be a "little bit pregnant". Either a person or a party is honest or it is not. There's no such thing as "mostly honest". Either they are or they aren't. If they aren't, then it's just a matter of arguing the level of cheating and lying. Mostly that devolves into finger-pointing.