Trump May Face 25 Years in Prison, Be Blocked From Future Office: Kirschner

LurchAddams said:
Stealing top secret documents and taking them to an unsecured place where foreign agents often come is not the same as using a personal email account.

Sorry, your whataboutism fails.
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Tell me Lurch baby, have you ever handled national security information? If you had then you should know email containing classified information on an unsecure server is no different than placing that information in an unlocked desk drawer.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Tell me Lurch baby, have you ever handled national security information? If you had then you should know email containing classified information on an unsecure server is no different than placing that information in an unlocked desk drawer.
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Agreed.

One major difference is the levels of security. My understanding is that Hillary's violations only included up to Secret. Trump's violations were the highest levels of classified material. Specifically, nuclear defense material.

Ergo, just like there are difference levels of other crimes such as homicide, there are different levels of classified material violations. I did one once; shredded a confidential document and forgot to record it. When I went looking for it, there was a discrepancy. A classified material violation. I got my ass chewed for that one. LOL
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Tell me Lurch baby, have you ever handled national security information? If you had then you should know email containing classified information on an unsecure server is no different than placing that information in an unlocked desk drawer.
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How was the server any more insecure than Colin Powell's server, and all the MAGA asswipes that used that texting app, Signal, when planning their coup?

Sweet cakes. Clean up your own ugly house before knocking on our door. Toodles.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed.

One major difference is the levels of security. My understanding is that Hillary's violations only included up to Secret. Trump's violations were the highest levels of classified material. Specifically, nuclear defense material.

Ergo, just like there are difference levels of other crimes such as homicide, there are different levels of classified material violations. I did one once; shredded a confidential document and forgot to record it. When I went looking for it, there was a discrepancy. A classified material violation. I got my ass chewed for that one. LOL
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Actually Hillary had Special access required a higher classication than just plain secret, on her server.
 
LurchAddams said:
How was the server any more insecure than Colin Powell's server, and all the MAGA asswipes that used that texting app, Signal, when planning their coup?

Sweet cakes. Clean up your own ugly house before knocking on our door. Toodles.
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The difference is Powell didn't have any classified on his illegal email machine. But nice try at white washing.
 
LurchAddams said:
How was the server any more insecure than Colin Powell's server, and all the MAGA asswipes that used that texting app, Signal, when planning their coup?

Sweet cakes. Clean up your own ugly house before knocking on our door. Toodles.
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Hillary’s server was never compromised, while secured servers were. Also, many of the documents were only classified after the fact.
 
Phantasmal said:
Hillary’s server was never compromised, while secured servers were. Also, many of the documents were only classified after the fact.
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Good points. White twump actually stole documents, lied about returning them, and had them in his f'ing desk drawer. And they're still talking about Hillary :)
 
LurchAddams said:
Powell was a General and Secretary of State. Of course, he dealt in classified shit.
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Did Powell violate classified material handling standards? To what extent?

There's a matter of degree to consider. Trump's transgressions were far greater than Hillary's. Given your allegations are true, are you asserting Powell's were equal to or greater than Hillary's?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Did Powell violate classified material handling standards? To what extent?

There's a matter of degree to consider. Trump's transgressions were far greater than Hillary's. Given your allegations are true, are you asserting Powell's were equal to or greater than Hillary's?
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Neither Hillary nor Powell committed any crimes. Hillary was a smear campaign by the GOP. McCarthy admitted it.
 
Phantasmal said:
Some people have a real need to hate Hillary and chose to believe all the nonfactual information put out by the Trumpublicans about her.
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Agreed.

Usually it's the fanatics who say their side is 100% pure and the other side is 100% corrupt, stupid, gullible, etc.

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Dutch Uncle said:
....just like people are still talking about GW Bush's crimes. :)
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As well they should. W. is a war criminal. He lied us into a 20-year war costing us billions and thousands of lives. It's a far cry from using a private server. Cheney too. He sent Scooter to take the fall in prison for outing a covert agent.

Apples and oranges.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Violating classified material handling violates the law. Doing it out of negligence or intent is a crime.
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The FBI said Hillary committed no crime and they know more than you. If you think you have Hillary dead to rights, you should present your evidence to the FBI.
 
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