Universal Healthcare Voted Into Law!

floridafan said:
I have experienced zero problems, zero issues with Medicare. I can see any doctor any specialist I want without prior authorization, anywhere in there country. If a physician says I need a test or procedure then its done, no complications. I surely dont need to wait for an insurance company to approve any procedure that my doctor says that I need.
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and I have Medicare Advantage.......whenever I have something new like a change in medication or visit to a specialist, I have to wait until Medicare authorizes it......thus, I suspect you are lying........
 
PostmodernProphet said:
did you know that for most people (those with Medicare Advantage plans) their health care is run by private companies?.......mine is run by Priority Health, BC/BS is a prominent Medicare advantage plan in Michigan........
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Did you come to terms with the fact that you will never be a real woman?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
one CHOOSES to go in to law enforcement, or become a teacher........but DOCTORS are not currently working for the government. It's a PRIVATE occupation, unless you're HIRED by the government and CHOOSE to work for it. What is being offered here with national healthcare regulated entirely by government is removing said doctors from private sector and forcing them to become public servants at reduced compensation....i.e. slaves.
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Wow. It's incredible how dumb you are.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
lol.....you're an idiot.......we should all be so lucky as to be "scammed" that way.......
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and you are an ignorant asshole. try entering a hospital with Medicare Advantage and be prepared to put up 4-5 thousand out of pocket. In fact Mayo Clinic just announced this week that anyone who has an Advantage Plan must put up a deposit before they can enter the hospital. That does not apply to traditional medicare.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
and I have Medicare Advantage.......whenever I have something new like a change in medication or visit to a specialist, I have to wait until Medicare authorizes it......thus, I suspect you are lying........
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You are fucking wrong again, Medicare Advantage is a private health system that doesn't use Medicare. You are at their mercy with pre approvals. There are no authorizations or pre approval with traditional medicare. get you fat ass out of Medicare Advantage while you still can.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
in my 56 years on this Earth, the only thing i've ever seen government be efficient about is causing death on all scales
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Much of it is not designed to be efficient including the Constitution. Whatever action generates the most funding becomes the goal.

The Inspector General for Iraq was asked why the government pays contractors who never completed a projects, built shoddy buildings, or never even started the project. He said the military officers were evaluated on how many contracts they issued.
 
floridafan said:
and you are an ignorant asshole. try entering a hospital with Medicare Advantage and be prepared to put up 4-5 thousand out of pocket. In fact Mayo Clinic just announced this week that anyone who has an Advantage Plan must put up a deposit before they can enter the hospital. That does not apply to traditional medicare.
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dude.....Medicare Advantage is Medicare plus supplemental coverage........if you have to pay out of pocket with advantage you will pay exactly the same out of pocket under Medicare.......you lying out of your ass.....
 
floridafan said:
You are fucking wrong again, Medicare Advantage is a private health system that doesn't use Medicare. You are at their mercy with pre approvals. There are no authorizations or pre approval with traditional medicare. get you fat ass out of Medicare Advantage while you still can.
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go away idiot......I pay two premiums every month......one to Medicare which is deducted from my SS check and one for ny advantage plan.....I would say you shouldn't post about things you don't know......but that's all you've ever done.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
dude.....Medicare Advantage is Medicare plus supplemental coverage........if you have to pay out of pocket with advantage you will pay exactly the same out of pocket under Medicare.......you lying out of your ass.....
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You are so full of shit, it stinks from here. Advantage is private insurance and is not the same or even close to medicare.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
go away idiot......I pay two premiums every month......one to Medicare which is deducted from my SS check and one for ny advantage plan.....I would say you shouldn't post about things you don't know......but that's all you've ever done.....
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Cunt face, everyone pays for Medicare part A. But when it comes to medicare supplements and prescription drug coverage medicare and advantage are as different as night and day.
 
floridafan said:
Cunt face, everyone pays for Medicare part A. But when it comes to medicare supplements and prescription drug coverage medicare and advantage are as different as night and day.
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lol....okay, so you just admitted that Medicare Advantage is Medicare plus supplemental.......therefore, everything covered under Medicare is also covered under Medicare Advantage.......so much for your lie about higher costs and longer waits........
 
SmarterthanYou said:
who paid the doctors, surgeons, nurses, anesthesiologists, and other various people involved in that emergency surgery? where did that money come from?
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There are many different systems to get to universal healthcare, but for the most part the government, and actually the taxpayers. It is cheaper, because unlike us, they know they will be paid. While everyone is paying, no one has to pay a ruinous amount.

To put it all in prospective, the Canadian and American governments spend almost the same amount of money per capita on healthcare. With that, Canadians get universal coverage, Americans get coverage of about a quarter of the people.
 
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