APP - Veterans for Trump

[Truth Detector]

Huh? Asking a question you don't understand? You do realize what a question's purpose is?

What is apparent is your inability to comprehend what an answer is, or, accepting facts.

You exhibit confusion over language and ideas, thus you censor your threads so conflicting ideas don't compromise your bias and bigotry. Weak men are afraid of ideas.

Another outright lie; I don't "censor" my threads. I merely keep out the leftist lunatics that litter every thread with their blatant stupidity and lunatic outbursts. That said, I am sure this is beyond your comprehension as well.

And there are lots of veterans in our family, did you read my profile? Posting several off the wall replies doesn't make you smart, but then again that isn't something you could claim given those replies.

There is a MINORITY of veterans on the leftist side of the aisle. Of course, you are welcome to lying dimwits like John Kerry who, after only serving a few short months in Vietnam getting a slew of unearned medals, found political expediency impugning his fellow soldiers claiming that they were committing atrocities.....much like he stupidly did during the Gulf war.

Let's be real here; only the losers and liars join the Democrats.

"On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." H. L. Mencken

Our draft dodger in charge,
Trump Airlines, failed
Trump Casinos, failed
Trump Marriages, failed
Trump Mortgage, failed
Trump University, failed
Trump Vodka, failed
Trump Steaks, failed
Bankruptcies, four so far, draft dodger Trump pays no taxes and cheats on taxes. So remind us again, what makes him such a winner. Oh enjoy supporting his family and him these next four years with your taxes, his one success was bamboozling insecure Americans that he was their savior. Good luck with that too.

More evidence of your complete lack of education and hypocrisy. Of course, leftists always stupidly believe that business never involves risk or failure and that only THEIR candidates (BillyBob Clinton) should get exemptions.

Carry on; it is apparent that you know nothing of what you rant about. Which explains why you gullibly swallow the pabulum dished out by the DNC and FAKE media, then mindlessly parrot them here.

 

[midcan5]

Sticks and stones may..... lol Why can't you simply own up to the fact you censor free speech? Your replies above are an example of the very thing you accuse others of, you miss that fact. Does the vet in youtube have a right to his signs?

 

[Truth Detector]

Sticks and stones may..... lol Why can't you simply own up to the fact you censor free speech?

I don't censor speech and you stupidly continuing to claim I do merely illustrates your inability to distinguish fact from fiction and make false claims.

Your replies above are an example of the very thing you accuse others of, you miss that fact.

My replies above merely illustrate you propensity to get everything wrong and make false stupid statements and claims. DUH!

Does the vet in youtube have a right to his signs?

Of course he does; who has claimed that people cannot express themselves?

Do I have the right to tell him how painfully stupid he looks?

 

[Truth Detector]

Why can't you simply own up to the fact you censor free speech?

By the way; here is a great example of censure from one of your leftist pals on the forum Christiefan:

Members banned from this thread: The mod with no name, USFREEDOM911, PostmodernProphet, Truth Detector, I Love America, Teflon Don, Right, Angry Black Guy, CFM and Yaya

When you stop being a lying hypocrite and rant about her censure, I will start to take your whiney tirades a little more seriously.

 

[midcan5]

Remember what mom used to say, 'if all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you too? Censoring opinions isn't restricted to just you, but it is you who I am having this conversation with. If others censor call them out.

 

[Truth Detector]

Remember what mom used to say, 'if all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you too? Censoring opinions isn't restricted to just you, but it is you who I am having this conversation with. If others censor call them out.

Mom says "it's not nice to lie." I guess liberals forgot that lesson....particularly with Trumps win and their serious case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

I don't censor; but the loony lying leftists on the forum do it all the time.

 

[midcan5]

....I don't censor; but the loony lying leftists on the forum do it all the time.

'Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication, or other information' - I realize it may make you cry, but there are no laws against making a conservative cry last I checked. You, like most fascist types, want speech to coincide with your bigotry, and when your nonsense is challenged you hide behind a censor's wall. You fail to see that given that you need to control ideas, every dictator and wannabe dictator censors but you appear to miss that fact.

 

[midcan5]

As Trump proposes reduced taxes for the wealthy and corporations, guess who will pay for the rich to get richer?

"Under the proposal, direct rental assistance payments — including Section 8 Housing and housing vouchers for homeless veterans — would be cut by at least $300 million, to $19.3 billion. Additionally, housing for the elderly — known as the Section 202 program — would be cut by $42 million, nearly 10 percent. Section 811 housing for people with disabilities would be cut by $29 million, nearly 20 percent. Money available for Native American housing block grants would fall by $150 million, more than 20 percent."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...57e8e8-03ab-11e7-b1e9-a05d3c21f7cf_story.html

 

[midcan5]

Donald John Trump was a draft dodger to my generation, to those who served and died. He is a hypocrite and a phony, and that he is still considered interested in veterans, except as a wedge issue, is an insult to the intelligence of Americans and especially veterans.

https://www.military.com/daily-news...er-programs-left-out-final-spending-bill.html


"What is patriotism? Let us begin with what patriotism is not. It is not patriotic to dodge the draft and to mock war heroes and their families. It is not patriotic to discriminate against active-duty members of the armed forces in one's companies, or to campaign to keep disabled veterans away from one's property. It is not patriotic to compare one's search for sexual partners in New York with the military service in Vietnam that one has dodged. It is not patriotic to avoid paying taxes, especially when American working families do pay. It is not patriotic to ask those working, taxpaying American families to finance one's own presidential campaign, and then to spend their contributions in one's own companies. It is not patriotic to admire foreign dictators. It is not patriotic to cultivate a relationship with Muammar Gaddafi; or to say that Bashar al-Assad and Vladimir Putin are superior leaders. It is not patriotic to call upon Russia to intervene in an American presidential election. It is not patriotic to cite Russian propaganda at rallies." Timothy Snyder https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33917107-on-tyranny

 

[Bill]

 

[philly rabbit]

Huh? Asking a question you don't understand? You do realize what a question's purpose is? You exhibit confusion over language and ideas, thus you censor your threads so conflicting ideas don't compromise your bias and bigotry. Weak men are afraid of ideas. And there are lots of veterans in our family, did you read my profile? Posting several off the wall replies doesn't make you smart, but then again that isn't something you could claim given those replies.

"On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." H. L. Mencken

Our draft dodger in charge,
Trump Airlines, failed
Trump Casinos, failed
Trump Marriages, failed
Trump Mortgage, failed
Trump University, failed
Trump Vodka, failed
Trump Steaks, failed
Bankruptcies, four so far, draft dodger Trump pays no taxes and cheats on taxes. So remind us again, what makes him such a winner. Oh enjoy supporting his family and him these next four years with your taxes, his one success was bamboozling insecure Americans that he was their savior. Good luck with that too.

Trump is just a figurehead.

Trump ended up governing as a conservative which is why you progressive leftists despise him but he is still just a figurehead.

It is Trump's supporters whom you all dispise.

You're all unpatriotic and you're all hateful.

You have 0 sense of civic duty.

And you all are left of liberals.

 

[Bill]

Trump is just a figurehead.

Trump ended up governing as a conservative which is why you progressive leftists despise him but he is still just a figurehead.

It is Trump's supporters whom you all dispise.

You're all unpatriotic and you're all hateful.

You have 0 sense of civic duty.

And you all are left of liberals.

Not true for everyone...

In what way is he just a figurehead?? Who is the real power behind the cheap glitzy thrown??

 

[midcan5]

Trump is just a figurehead.

Trump ended up governing as a conservative which is why you progressive leftists despise him but he is still just a figurehead.

It is Trump's supporters whom you all dispise.

You're all unpatriotic and you're all hateful.

You have 0 sense of civic duty.

And you all are left of liberals.

As a figurehead he sure does a lot of EAs that hurt immigrants, heathcare, jobs, and Americans. Pres Donnie is no conservatives unless cheating on your taxes, workers, and wives is a new conservative value. Trump is too sad to be hated, one must feel pity for a man born into wealth, but so insecure. Civic duty, I served during Nam, pay my taxes, vote, and post online in the hope intelligence and civic duty still exist in America. Left of liberals? Not sure what that is even supposed to mean. For the right wing Trump snowflake those words have meaning within the tribe, outside the group they are only dog whistles.


"What is patriotism? [civic duty] Let us begin with what patriotism is not. It is not patriotic to dodge the draft and to mock war heroes and their families. It is not patriotic to discriminate against active-duty members of the armed forces in one's companies, or to campaign to keep disabled veterans away from one's property. It is not patriotic to compare one's search for sexual partners in New York with the military service in Vietnam that one has dodged. It is not patriotic to avoid paying taxes, especially when American working families do pay. It is not patriotic to ask those working, taxpaying American families to finance one's own presidential campaign, and then to spend their contributions in one's own companies. It is not patriotic to admire foreign dictators. It is not patriotic to cultivate a relationship with Muammar Gaddafi; or to say that Bashar al-Assad and Vladimir Putin are superior leaders. It is not patriotic to call upon Russia to intervene in an American presidential election. It is not patriotic to cite Russian propaganda at rallies." Timothy Snyder
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33917107-on-tyranny

 

[midcan5]

We were out yesterday and a bumper sticker had a veterans for Trump sticker. I can't figure it out as Trump's actions are hardly helpful to vets. So i came back to this thread and added some more information. I was happy to see the many views.

"While disabled veterans should be given every opportunity to earn a living, is it fair to do so to the detriment of the city as a whole or its tax paying citizens and businesses? Do we allow Fifth Ave., one of the world’s finest and most luxurious shopping districts, to be turned into an outdoor flea market, clogging and seriously downgrading the area?” Donald Trump

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/trump-vs-veteran-vendors/


“Oh they can make a living. I just don’t want their dirty crippled selves selling stuff near my totally classy buildings.”

https://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2016/01/28/trump-veterans/


'No One Disrespects the Troops More Than Donald Trump'

https://www.gq.com/story/trump-and-the-troops


'Donald Trump’s Properties Were Sued At Least Eight Times For Disabilities Violations'

http://trumplies.com/donald-trumps-history-of-dishonoring-veterans/


'5 Reasons Veterans Should Not Support Donald Trump'

https://time.com/4489574/veterans-donald-trump/


Cadet Bone Spurs, as Illinois senator and Iraq war vet Tammy Duckworth calls Trump

'Trump's proposed Memorial Day pardons dishonor veterans — and pervert justice'

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...dishonor-veterans-pervert-justice-ncna1010241

Reading:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33917107-on-tyranny

Lying to Veterans

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/po...s-veterans-military-service-article-1.3204210

 

[StoneByStone]

Why do veterans support Trump? Do they really think he will change the republican party's policies? Trump like so many republicans was a draft dodger. Lots of men were, I've only met one in my life who was honest and admitted getting a exemption. And while the lower classes served, the upper classes hide. And face it folks, bringing back the draft would create more crying than a Dear John. When Trump beats his chest like some superman, I have to laugh, when he had the chance to serve he too hide. So why the support? And this question is about policy, not the usual equivalency apologetic rebuttal.

http://usuncut.com/politics/happy-veterans-day-5-times-republicans-in-congress-screwed-veterans/

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/05...s-expensive-600-billion-tax-cut-business.html

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/23/1249904/-GOP-s-actual-track-record-on-supporting-veterans

http://www.militarytimes.com/story/veterans/2015/08/28/carson-dump-va-reaction/71312038/

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/01/politics/jeb-bush-veterans-benefits/

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/11/republicans-congress-dishonoring-americas-veterans.html


"Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home -but not for housing. They are strong for labor - but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor minimum wage - the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all - but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine - for people who can afford them. They consider electrical power a great blessing - but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They think American standard of living is a fine thing - so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it." Harry S. Truman

Conservativism is more of an identity than an ideology. People start with the identity and then just blindly believe in all of the ideas. That's how we end up with poor rural farmers who vote Republicans even as conservative policies make them poorer.
Farmers are getting hit the hardest by Trump's tariffs, but you know most of them still ain't gonna vote for no sissy liberal Democrat!

 

[midcan5]

Conservativism is more of an identity than an ideology. People start with the identity and then just blindly believe in all of the ideas. That's how we end up with poor rural farmers who vote Republicans even as conservative policies make them poorer.
Farmers are getting hit the hardest by Trump's tariffs, but you know most of them still ain't gonna vote for no sissy liberal Democrat!

[Bold added]

LOL you are so right and add in they are 'socialists' who give everything away to 'you know who' and the light skinned person is in your pocket for life. Kinda simple isn't it.

There is an old expression 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' that so fits the American conservative today it should be their motto.


"It's always been a great survival value for people to believe they belong to a superior tribe. That's just in human relationships." E. O. Wilson


PS Off topic: E. O. Wilson book 'On Human Nature' is an excellent read that touches on these sort of topics.

 

[midcan5]

I was glad to hear there is another Veteran's ad opposing Trump and ask that he be presidential. I think that's impossible but.... When it is out, I'll post it.

A few days ago my wife and I visited 'the Berkshire Museum' in Pittsfield, Massachusetts, I got in for free. Nice gesture.

Older info for the interested.

https://www.votevets.org/press/vote...p-to-start-acting-like-a-legitimate-president

 

[midcan5]

Just imagine giving your life for your country but your child is denied citizenship. The Trump administration is the most despicable administration in our history.

'Trump administration ends automatic citizenship for some children of military, federal workers born abroad'

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immi...b811c6-c9d7-11e9-a1fe-ca46e8d573c0_story.html


"A veteran, whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve, is someone who, at one point of their life, signed a blank check made payable to "The United States of America", for an amount of 'up to and including my life. "

 

[midcan5]

Cadet Bone Spurs strikes again.

"New schools, dining halls, a new fire station and a rescue station are just some of the projects that military members and their families will not see on bases around the world as money is reappropriated from them to fund construction of the United States' border wall."

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-border-wall-schools-military-funds-1457962


Missing in action again.

"As lawmakers and community leaders reeled at two mass shootings that claimed 29 lives in 24 hours, President Donald Trump stayed out of the spotlight and kept his summer vacation going at his New Jersey golf club."

https://www.insider.com/trump-pictured-at-new-jersey-golf-club-amid-shootings-2019-8


"On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." H. L. Mencken

 

[flighty]

I'm a vet and I voted for him --- primarily because the alternative was orders of magnitude worse. By the way the libs did it too - they ran away to Canada and then when it was over they whined to be allowed to come home. Plus check out how old Joe Biden skirted his duty to serve. In that respect he and Trump are a pair. I personally think the libs were worse draft dodgers than the cons ---- but then I tend to be a tad bit rightwing.