Ways That Socialsm Can Be Better Than Capitalism

[T. A. Gardner]

Social Security has been operating for 85 years. They have never missed a check and they have been run on under 1 percent of income. Think that would continue if it were privatized?

Depends on how it is privatized. Aside from that, one should plan for and prepare their own retirement savings not rely on the government to do it for them.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Hello T. A. Gardner,



But look at how the economy took off as soon as goods could be easily and quickly shipped all over the country. Take away interstate highways and the economy takes a giant hit. This was something government did that was good for the people. That means everybody who tries to claim 'government screws everything up' is not being correct.

You miss the point. It was done for defense purposes, but became used for commercial and private purposes as well. Not everything the government does is screwed up, but they on the whole are better at screwing things up than any other entity.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Good dog. Keep posting.

I do not intend to stop posting, Yakuda.

I just pity you...so young and so damaged.

But so cute when angry and frustrated.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Depends on how it is privatized. Aside from that, one should plan for and prepare their own retirement savings not rely on the government to do it for them.

And those who don't (or can't) should simply be put on an ice floe...and allowed to drift out to sea to drown.

You must be a Christian.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

why buy either charcoal lighter fluid or "tire wet" when you can get a gallon of gas for under $2?......

 

[Yakuda]

I do not intend to stop posting, Yakuda.

I just pity you...so young and so damaged.

But so cute when angry and frustrated.

Good doggie. i command you to continue and you will. I own you.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Good doggie. i command you to continue and you will. I own you.

You are not smart enough to own yourself.

I love ya, Yakuda. You provide me with more enjoyment than you can imagine.

 

[Truth Detector]

Ways That Socialism Can Be Better Than Capitalism

It is not possible for socialism to EVER be better than free market capitalism as has been proved over the many hundreds of years in the past. Only uneducated, lying douchebags promote failed ideologies that do nothing but destroy families and societies.

 

[Truth Detector]

My favorite short list of American socialism are:

Public libraries
NASA-space program
Public universities
Medicare
Green Bay Packers

^Dimwitted wonder dunce obviously has no idea what socialism is.

 

[Truth Detector]

Don't forget public roads and highways.

^Another dimwitted wonder dunce that hasn't got the slightest clue what socialism is.

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a prostitute; harlot.

 

[Truth Detector]

Capitalism has been a brilliant method of totally revolutionising societies and producing more wealth, but unfortunately it turns people into commodities, concentrates the wealth in fewer and fewer hands, alienates us from our work and one another, has frequent huge breakdowns and is unable to deal with the needs of the species, which it is likely to burn off the earth. There are different definitions of 'socialism', many of them hugely muddled by the use of the word in justifying various eastern regimes. For many it is a natural modification of capitalism such as you see in most advanced countries, for others control of society by the democratic majority who do all the productive work. I feel that anything but the second, very, very soon, will mean the end of humanity, the sort of destruction Trump embodies, and which horrifies me.

A few great quotes from my favorite person in history:

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

 

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The far right notion that socialism is always a failure...is BS also, Poli.

China is doing very well...and it has been socialistic since 1950.

Of course it has snowflake; if you ignore the lack of freedom, the misery of it's citizens, the lack of liberty and the hegemony that their dictatorship promotes.

You really are an insufferable dumbass on steroids you know that?

 

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Why did Republicans, including almost every conservative on this board, call Obamacare socialist, and claim that what Obama was trying to do was Marxist-Socialist?

How is Obamacare not an example of a socialist attempt to remake and take over our private healthcare system you insufferable dumbass?

For eight years Obamacare was such an abject failure the morons in the Party of the Jackass demanded Republicans, who didn't give a single vote for it, fix it. Now, the morons in the Party of the Jackass are admitting it was such a failure, they want to supplant it with universal Government managed healthcare. I do wish you had an IQ above room temp. Really I do.

 

[Truth Detector]

There are different types of socialism.

Doesn't matter which one; they all have the same failed outcome you dumb, uneducated hack.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Nordberg,

Social Security has been operating for 85 years. They have never missed a check and they have been run on under 1 percent of income. Think that would continue if it were privatized?

No way. We know what would happen if the power-junkies got a hold of Social Security. The profit-takers would be extracting as much of that wealth out of the hands of the populace as possible and concentrating it into the hands of the few elite privileged power-obsessed insiders.

The government does not earn any profits off of Social Security.

If that system were administered by big Wall Street financial wizards, they would be bleeding it for all the profits they could manage. Hard working people would lose out.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello T. A. Gardner,

You miss the point. It was done for defense purposes, but became used for commercial and private purposes as well. Not everything the government does is screwed up, but they on the whole are better at screwing things up than any other entity.

We know that defense mobility was an important consideration, but I'm not sure if I believe that was the only reason. It had to be recognized that this would be a boon to the economy. It most certainly was.

And thanks for acknowledging my valid point that the government does not screw up everything it does.

We created out own government in the USA.

We have the power to change our government in the USA.

If our government that we created, and have the power to change, is not serving us as we would like, then the fault is not that of the government. The responsibility falls upon us. We, the people, need to be better informed and monitor what our government is doing. We need to be paying more attention to what is going on. We are the boss. Our government works for us. We are responsible.

Any boss can blame the workers for screwing up, but ultimately that boss is who is responsible.

The boss blaming the workers is just a lazy attempt at blame-shifting. It's dishonest.

And it doesn't solve the problem.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

And those who don't (or can't) should simply be put on an ice floe...and allowed to drift out to sea to drown.

You must be a Christian.

And you don't believe in personal responsibility obviously. Those who chose not to plan ahead got what they wanted. Why should that be something I or you should have to foot the bill for? As for those who can't, I think that would depend on the circumstances.

Claiming that society as a whole has to provide a good standard of living to everyone, regardless of how little they contribute to it, is a common Socialist mistake. It breeds lazy and incompetent.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello T. A. Gardner,

And you don't believe in personal responsibility obviously. Those who chose not to plan ahead got what they wanted. Why should that be something I or you should have to foot the bill for? As for those who can't, I think that would depend on the circumstances.

Claiming that society as a whole has to provide a good standard of living to everyone, regardless of how little they contribute to it, is a common Socialist mistake. It breeds lazy and incompetent.

The dole is not an extravagant life. It is having the essentials covered. The motivation to have a better life is always present for those who chose to follow it.

Ideally, those of us who are well off should not be REQUIRED to foot the bill for the least advantaged. We should WANT to to that. Makes the champagne and caviar less guilt-laden and ever more enjoyable to know that we can not only take care of our selves but those who cannot care for THEM selves.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Hello T. A. Gardner,



We know that defense mobility was an important consideration, but I'm not sure if I believe that was the only reason. It had to be recognized that this would be a boon to the economy. It most certainly was.

And thanks for acknowledging my valid point that the government does not screw up everything it does.

We created out own government in the USA.

We have the power to change our government in the USA.

If our government that we created, and have the power to change, is not serving us as we would like, then the fault is not that of the government. The responsibility falls upon us. We, the people, need to be better informed and monitor what our government is doing. We need to be paying more attention to what is going on. We are the boss. Our government works for us. We are responsible.

Any boss can blame the workers for screwing up, but ultimately that boss is who is responsible.

The boss blaming the workers is just a lazy attempt at blame-shifting. It's dishonest.

And it doesn't solve the problem.

My view with government is it is the place of last resort. That is, government should never do what something other than government can do. A good example right now is health care and paying for it. The reason it's so costly is because government is heavily involved. Health insurance to pay for health care only came about because government got involved in WW 2.

FDR during WW 2 slapped wage and price controls on business and industry to prevent war profiteering. For industries that required skilled workers, this was a problem in a tight labor market. They couldn't offer higher wages so they offered wages-in-kind instead. They opened employee cafeterias that let employees eat for free and additionally let them avoid using their ration cards giving them more food. They offered free health insurance policies that payed for health care as well, among other incentives. With the end of the war some of these perks wound down and ended, others stayed in place health insurance among them.

So, government created the health insurance / care problem and government has added to it ever since. The proof of this is in the one area of health care that isn't heavily government regulated, doesn't generally operate on insurance, and isn't seeing government competition: Cosmetic surgery. Prices have fallen, not gone up with inflation. This is because procedures have become cheaper to do as technology and technique have evolved. Since customers have to pay cash they expect value for their money. Providers can't charge exorbitant fees for service either.