We have never seen such a senior official say the President is unfit

Hello Cypress,

Cypress said:
The heroes and icons of the conservative base just keep getting dumber and dumber. George Dumbya Bush. Sarah Palin. Donald Trumpf.

It is almost as if they admire stupidity.

I personally am putting money on Ted Nugent being the GOP nominee in 2024.
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I think there is now a strong opening with that crowd for David Duke.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Phantasmal,



I do not see her as a war monger, but if Biden were to make this choice it would tempt the conservative part of the middle away from DT.

No big. It would never happen anyway.
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[FONT=adelle, Helvetica, sans-serif]I’ll never forget when she made excuses for torture. She excused many war crimes by the Bush administration. Biden would lose many if he selected her. [/FONT]
 
Hello Phantasmal,

Phantasmal said:
[FONT=adelle, Helvetica, sans-serif]I’ll never forget when she made excuses for torture. She excused many war crimes by the Bush administration. Biden would lose many if he selected her. [/FONT]
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Also true. Which is why it won't happen.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
As demonstrated previously, there's a reason why about 2/3s of American find Hillary unfavorable. Why do you think they and I believe that to be true? Do you think we are all suckers for "fake news"? Stupid? Uneducated?

Why did you go on a four-paragraph lecture about the Constitution and the EC then, in the fifth paragraph tacitly admit that it's why Hillary lost even if it's "archaic"?
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I get that you don't like Hillary. She wasn't my first choice.

I elaborated on the constitution and the history of our elections because you clearly suggested that what matters in presidential elections is what the majority of states want. Which is factually and constitutionally incorrect.
 
Walt said:
trump is hiring incompetent people, because he himself is incompetent. he has failed completely, and we need to get rid of him.
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trump always needs to be the smartest person in the room. Do you have any idea how hard it is to accomplish that?

He's getting pretty close, with this group that surround him now.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello domer76,



We must always remember that the people who post here in this forum are not proportionally representative of the nation.

We are just a tiny fraction of people who can put up with a really rough forum that most people want no part of.

Most people don't even want to talk about politics at all.
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Trump has a following of about 30% who will never waver from him. Is the forum proportion pretty close to that?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Woko Haram,



Sounds like fantasy.

Biden knows exactly what he is in for.

He waited quite some time before making his commitment.

He knew exactly what that meant, knew how big a decision it was, did not make it lightly. When he made it he understood what it entailed and knew he would have to be 100% in it for the long run.

It is extremely doubtful he is dropping out.
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I don't think Biden expected to mentally decline in recent months. I mean that sincerely. I'm not trying to make fun of him, because things like Alzheimer's are serious. He's showing signs that he might not be mentally ready for the job anymore. That could be a disaster for the debates.

I don't think the DNC expected it either, or they would have pushed for him to drop out much earlier. It's definitely not a good position to be in when your most popular candidate might have to drop out and nominate someone else at the last minute.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Woko Haram,



It makes total sense. It is exactly what he has done his whole life. He markets his name. His name is his brand. He figured out a long time ago that it doesn't matter how you do it but if you get your name in the news it is free publicity and any publicity is better than none. He believes that people won't remember the details of a bad story about you, all they remember is the name. The more he gets his brand name out there, the more business he gets.

He was pretty bad at business, lost a billion, then he got it through his head that his name was worth more than his business acumen. That is why he began to sell his name. Most of the Trump Towers all over the world are owned by somebody else who paid to have his name on it.

He only ran for the free publicity. He knew that if he stayed in the race longer he would get more publicity. If he was very controversial, more publicity. It's like every time his name is mentioned it is another dollar in his pocket.

It makes total sense that he would run for president with no intention to win.

He did it many times.
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There are much cheaper ways to get a return on publicity than to run a presidential campaign. You said it yourself -- he's spent his entire life marketing his name, and most of the Trump Towers and other Trump related products came about long before his presidential runs.

For example, I'm sure he got a better return on The Apprentice than he did with the presidential campaign.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Woko Haram,



Bolton said that as he was asking for Xi's help in the 2020 election that Trump told Xi he was hoping to get the constitution amended so he could serve more than 2 terms.
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I'm sure Trump isn't the only president who would've liked that. The good news is that the passage of a Constitutional Amendment for that is about as likely as Jill Stein winning the election.
 
Woko Haram said:
I don't think Biden expected to mentally decline in recent months. I mean that sincerely. I'm not trying to make fun of him, because things like Alzheimer's are serious. He's showing signs that he might not be mentally ready for the job anymore. That could be a disaster for the debates.

I don't think the DNC expected it either, or they would have pushed for him to drop out much earlier. It's definitely not a good position to be in when your most popular candidate might have to drop out and nominate someone else at the last minute.
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Damn lie. I saw his interview 2 days ago and he was articulate and knowledgeable. https://www.c-span.org/video/?470609-1/joe-biden-remarks-coronavirus-response Can Trump do that?
 
Woko Haram said:
Even people in decline have good days. Did you see the interview with him and Hillary, where he nodded off in the middle of it?
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You really think you know what Biden's mental state is. You do not. If Biden was in decline, a Dem would have broken away and revealed it.Biden has had a string of good days. Trump has had none. He cannot talk to an audience that does not suck up. Yet he will have to in the debates. He was dead against debates until he saw the polling. Now he is desperate and wants lots of them. He hopes something in there will help him. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...e-standpoint-of-water-trump-on-florence-video Does Biden do this?
 
Nordberg said:
You really think you know what Biden's mental state is. You do not. If Biden was in decline, a Dem would have broken away and revealed it.Biden has had a string of good days. Trump has had none. He cannot talk to an audience that does not suck up. Yet he will have to in the debates. He was dead against debates until he saw the polling. Now he is desperate and wants lots of them. He hopes something in there will help him. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...e-standpoint-of-water-trump-on-florence-video Does Biden do this?
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I think a better question is: has the media ever fixated this much on a president's words before Trump?

Has the media ever put this much effort into recording every supposed lie that a president has told?

When considering that several media figures were talking about impeaching Trump before he even got elected, that should tell you all you need to know about how they're going to present things.
 
Woko Haram said:
I think a better question is: has the media ever fixated this much on a president's words before Trump?

Has the media ever put this much effort into recording every supposed lie that a president has told?

When considering that several media figures were talking about impeaching Trump before he even got elected, that should tell you all you need to know about how they're going to present things.
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They never had to. Trump is providing the fuel. There in no making it up. https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/donald-trump-quotes This is not about the impeachment. Stick to the subject, the one you cannot defend.
 
Nordberg said:
You really think you know what Biden's mental state is. You do not. If Biden was in decline, a Dem would have broken away and revealed it.Biden has had a string of good days. Trump has had none. He cannot talk to an audience that does not suck up. Yet he will have to in the debates. He was dead against debates until he saw the polling. Now he is desperate and wants lots of them. He hopes something in there will help him. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...e-standpoint-of-water-trump-on-florence-video Does Biden do this?
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Agreed Trump is a fucking moron. I think he snorts legally-prescribed Adderall to give him a "boost" when ranting onstage for two hours.

It's sad Trump is in the WH, but when the best the Democrats can come up with is a candidate whose "string of good days" means "good enough", my confidence in the Democratic party to run the nation pegs to "Not so much".
 
Woko Haram said:
I think a better question is: has the media ever fixated this much on a president's words before Trump?

Has the media ever put this much effort into recording every supposed lie that a president has told?

When considering that several media figures were talking about impeaching Trump before he even got elected, that should tell you all you need to know about how they're going to present things.
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Yes. It's how the world of freedom works. Do you agree that every citizen in America has a right to bitch about those assholes in Washington regardless of political parties?

How the fuck do you record a lie unless a liar is speaking it?

Politician: Fuuuucccck you!
The Media: The Politician looked in the camera and screamed "Fuuuucccck you!"
Politician: I said "Faaaaake Neeeews!"
<Politician's minions snicker and clap.>
 
Woko Haram said:
You clearly have a lot of confidence in Biden. For his sake, I hope you're right that his health isn't in decline, but if he bombs at the debates, you'll know why now.
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There's a good chance either of the candidates can die of natural causes before the election or in the year after.
 
Hello Woko Haram,

Woko Haram said:
There are much cheaper ways to get a return on publicity than to run a presidential campaign. You said it yourself -- he's spent his entire life marketing his name, and most of the Trump Towers and other Trump related products came about long before his presidential runs.

For example, I'm sure he got a better return on The Apprentice than he did with the presidential campaign.
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Doubtful. Viewership was the greatest for the first season, at 28.1 million, and then dropped off greatly after that. By the final season it was down to less than a quarter of the popularity of the first season, at 6.1 million people on one network. Running for president exposed DT to 330 million Americans with daily coverage on all networks.
 
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