We Have To Get Rid Of Trump To Fix The Climate

[Into the Night]

NASA says that all the planets temperatures are rising by virtually the same percentage.

NASA says a lot of stupid things these days. It is not possible to measure the temperature of any planet, not even of Earth. We simply don't have enough thermometers. There are virtually none on the other planets. There is no other way to measure an absolute temperature.

This suggests to anyone capable of simple critical thinking skills that the rise in temperature has nothing to do with human activities like SUV's and carbon emissions. Since neither exist on the other planets. This simple fact just destroyed the entire argument of the tree huggers.

While it does, the argument is based on random numbers. NASA has no data. It is not possible to collect such data.

We are warming.

We don't know. It is not possible to know.

The warming trend is but another cycle based on the sun's flare activity.

Explaining something we don't know against a random thing like a flare? Flares come and go almost continuously.

So called expert scientists declared a similar problem in the early 70's.

Science isn't 'experts'. It isn't even scientists.

Only we were cooling then.

I remember this claim. Made big news then. It had the same problems. It is not possible to measure the temperature of Earth.

They declared an ice age was coming. Crops would die. Food scarce. Millions would starve. Lol sound familiar lol.

Yup. The usual doom and gloom scenarios.

You libs have been duped.

Seems easy to do, doesn't it?

 

[Legion]

dems believe in hoaxes. true scientific fact.

This is what DEMOCRATS look like trying to scare everyone into giving them money and power:

Spoiler

 

[cancel2 2022]

You can repeat those meaningless statistics all you want; the land mass that humans occupy doesn't dictate how much we spew into the air. The NATURE of CO2 is that small increases warm up the planet rapidly. That is inescapable, scientific fact.

Nitrogen, oxygen, and Argon don't trap heat. CO2 does.

Unless you can win a Nobel Prize by proving that clear statement incorrect, you're basically engaging in retard-typing practice.

Not entirely true, and here is a paper to tell you that as well.

Abstract

[1] The effect of collision‐induced absorption by molecular oxygen (O2) and nitrogen (N2) on the outgoing longwave radiation (OLR) of the Earth's atmosphere has been quantified. We have found that on global average under clear‐sky conditions the OLR is reduced due to O2 by 0.11 Wm−2 and due to N2 by 0.17 Wm−2. Together this amounts to 15% of the OLR‐reduction caused by CH4 at present atmospheric concentrations. Over Antarctica the combined effect of O2 and N2 increases on average to about 38% of CH4 with single values reaching up to 80%. This is explained by less interference of H2O spectral bands on the absorption features of O2 and N2 for dry atmospheric conditions.

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2012GL051409

 

[Into the Night]

Not entirely true, and here is a paper to tell you that as well.

Abstract

[1] The effect of collision‐induced absorption by molecular oxygen (O2) and nitrogen (N2) on the outgoing longwave radiation (OLR) of the Earth's atmosphere has been quantified. We have found that on global average under clear‐sky conditions the OLR is reduced due to O2 by 0.11 Wm−2 and due to N2 by 0.17 Wm−2. Together this amounts to 15% of the OLR‐reduction caused by CH4 at present atmospheric concentrations. Over Antarctica the combined effect of O2 and N2 increases on average to about 38% of CH4 with single values reaching up to 80%. This is explained by less interference of H2O spectral bands on the absorption features of O2 and N2 for dry atmospheric conditions.

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2012GL051409

This paper fails to account for the radiance coming from O2 and N2 and only accounts for the absorption of infrared light by these gases. It also fails to account for the energy required by the surface to emit that light, which cools the surface.

It is also using manufactured data. It is not possible to measure the amount of global O2 or N2 concentration in the atmosphere. It is not uniformly distributed. These scientists are performing a math error by failing to declare a variance and failing to calculate the margin of error.

This kind of carelessness in papers published today is unfortunately rather common.

* It is not possible to trap heat.
* It is not possible to trap thermal energy, there is always heat.
* It is not possible to trap light.
* No gas or vapor is capable of warming the Earth.
* Absorption of surface emitted infrared light by any gas or vapor does NOT warm the Earth.

 

[cancel2 2022]

This paper fails to account for the radiance coming from O2 and N2 and only accounts for the absorption of infrared light by these gases. It also fails to account for the energy required by the surface to emit that light, which cools the surface.

It is also using manufactured data. It is not possible to measure the amount of global O2 or N2 concentration in the atmosphere. It is not uniformly distributed. These scientists are performing a math error by failing to declare a variance and failing to calculate the margin of error.

This kind of carelessness in papers published today is unfortunately rather common.

* It is not possible to trap heat.
* It is not possible to trap thermal energy, there is always heat.
* It is not possible to trap light.
* No gas or vapor is capable of warming the Earth.
* Absorption of surface emitted infrared light by any gas or vapor does NOT warm the Earth.

Seriously, you're away with the fucking fairies.

 

[leaningright]

“Fix the climate.”

 

[Jerome]

“Fix the climate.”

AKA, stop shooting CO2 into the atmosphere at alarming rates.

 

[TTQ64]

It's not just dump, it's the entire republican party and moderate dems.

if dump goes they still wont act on climate change..........none of the republicans believe in it.

How are you going to pass legislation? And remember, there will be moderate dems who side with the republicans.

 

[Into the Night]

Seriously, you're away with the fucking fairies.

No, that would be YOU, for believing this is actually science at all.

 

[Into the Night]

“Fix the climate.”

There is desert climate, marine climate, mountain climate, etc. How do you 'fix' these?

 

[Truth Detector]

Yeah, I do wonder how many of the ingrates here just troll for entertainment.

Buy a mirror.

 

[Into the Night]

AKA, stop shooting CO2 into the atmosphere at alarming rates.

What's wrong with CO2?

 

[Into the Night]

It's not just dump, it's the entire republican party and moderate dems.

if dump goes they still wont act on climate change..........none of the republicans believe in it.

How are you going to pass legislation? And remember, there will be moderate dems who side with the republicans.

Define 'climate change'.

 

[Ralph]

Hottest Decade.

Lying Trump thinks it's a hoax, pulled out of Paris.

Trump stands in the way of fighting Climate Change.

We are out of time. We can't wait another 4 years before we get serious. The eyes of the world are upon us.

We have to get rid of Trump and get somebody who understands the seriousness of the situation.

The climate is more important than the economy, but there is no reason that fighting climate change has to destroy the economy. We put something like 30% of our economy toward fighting for our survival in WWII. This is actually far more serious than a despot, and we put less than 1% of our economy toward this.

Things have got to change. Big changes. We need a bold leader who recognizes the problem and is prepared to take significant steps.

As far as leaders go, Trump is like candy. Candy is fine but we can't live on candy. We need some protein. We need a leader that knows how to build a future. We can't live on short term feel-good tax cuts and an economy that makes the rich even richer and the government debt greater. Great. The stock market took off. That only benefits the upper half. What's everybody else supposed to do? What's the government supposed to do? The deficit is irresponsibly unmanageable as the richest enjoy deep tax cuts. That is irresponsible. We have to quit believing this myth that we need Trump to have a good economy. We have to understand that if we keep Trump, we doom the world to ever more warming. A climate we can't live in makes money worthless. What good is money if you have no world to spend it in?

This is bigger than getting Supreme Court Justices. Bigger than the economy.

This is life.

This is having a future.

Doesn't anybody care about their grandchildren?

I am amazed so many people are willing to take such risks with the future for their grandchildren.

SMH

Get rid of Trump.

Of course you do. You must rid the world of the DONALD...he's to blame for all your failures. And everyone should sell all their stocks...right?

 

[Truth Detector]

When they're completely fucking irrelevant to the conversation, you witless fuck

Irony; a witless fuck claiming that others are. Buy a mirror you whiny little know-nothing.

CO2 is not a "molecule in oxygen". Jesus fucking Christ, did you take even an elementary-school level science class? Ever? CO2 is a chemical compound in the atmosphere.

This is why I say that one cannot argue with brain dead leftist retards.

The carbon dioxide molecule is linear and centrosymmetric.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide

It is measured in parts-per-million. There were about 280 PPM prior to the industrial age, and it was about that level for around 600,000 years prior.

That is the lie by AGW alarmists; you don't know what the ppm of CO2 was 600,000 years ago. It is speculative bullshit.

As I have noted, it is a tiny part of the Oxygen MOLECULE. The notion that it is causing global warming is asinine in the extreme.

We now have 412 PPM, an insane increase that is causing glacial retreat, melting of both poles, global warming, species loss, and wholesale climate change across the globe. These are facts, and they're inescapable. Human beings DID NOT EXIST the last time there was this much CO2 in the planet. The planet will survive this change, but we may not.

Thnen perhaps you should not waste any time killing yourself?

We are currently at the highest concentration of CO2 since 14 million years ago.

Who measured this 14 million years ago? Man?

 

[Truth Detector]

NASA says that all the planets temperatures are rising by virtually the same percentage. This suggests to anyone capable of simple critical thinking skills that the rise in temperature has nothing to do with human activities like SUV's and carbon emissions. Since neither exist on the other planets. This simple fact just destroyed the entire argument of the tree huggers.

We are warming. The warming trend is but another cycle based on the sun's flare activity. So called expert scientists declared a similar problem in the early 70's. Only we were cooling then. They declared an ice age was coming. Crops would die. Food scarce. Millions would starve. Lol sound familiar lol.

You libs have been duped.

 

[Truth Detector]

CO2 has no capability to warm the Earth. Zero. Zip. Nada. None. Not even if it was 50% of the atmosphere.

Tell that to Jerome; the witless fuckhead.

 

[Truth Detector]

There are over a thousand predictions like these. Obviously, none of them have come true. The Church of Global Warming has lousy prophets.

 

[Into the Night]

As I have noted, it is a tiny part of the Oxygen MOLECULE. The notion that it is causing global warming is asinine in the extreme.

CO2 is not a part of any oxygen molecule, which is O2, or ozone, which is O3. While it does contain oxygen in the CO2 molecule, a molecule's behavior is quite different from any of it's components.

CO2 does absorb infrared light from Earth's surface. This absorption does not warm the Earth. It actually cools the surface in the same way as heating the air by conduction cools the surface.

 

[Truth Detector]

CO2 is not a part of any oxygen molecule, which is O2, or ozone, which is O3. While it does contain oxygen in the CO2 molecule, a molecule's behavior is quite different from any of it's components.

CO2 does absorb infrared light from Earth's surface. This absorption does not warm the Earth. It actually cools the surface in the same way as heating the air by conduction cools the surface.

I meant to say AIR. CO2 is one of the molecules in AIR.



Below is the composition of air in percent by volume, at sea level at 15 C and 101325 Pa.

Nitrogen -- N2 -- 78.084%
Oxygen -- O2 -- 20.9476%
Argon -- Ar -- 0.934%
Carbon Dioxide -- CO2 -- 0.0314%
Neon -- Ne -- 0.001818%
Methane -- CH4 -- 0.0002%
Helium -- He -- 0.000524%
Krypton -- Kr -- 0.000114%
Hydrogen -- H2 -- 0.00005%
Xenon -- Xe -- 0.0000087%
Ozone -- O3 -- 0.000007%
Nitrogen Dioxide -- NO2 -- 0.000002%
Iodine -- I2 -- 0.000001%
Carbon Monoxide -- CO -- trace
Ammonia -- NH3 -- trace