What A World Government Could Do For Us

PoliTalker said:
Hello Dutch Uncle,



That already exists. I want to ensure that the people who have this power are the best possible choice that humanity can make.

What we got going on now ain't getting it.

Sure, we got this pest Putin drunk on power. He could push the button if backed into a corner.

And who is to say that some extremist group somewhere in the world is not going to get their hands on a nuke?

Sooner or later.

Our only chance is to have a powerful world government.

And yes, that is a scary idea.

So before we go there we have to make sure we set up a system that has so many checks and balances that nobody is going to have the opportunity to get power-drunk and get away with some nefarious plan that violates the World Constitution.

We need the ultimate document. The kind of Constitution that makes the US Constitution look like child-play.

The world has advanced so much since 1789, don't you think? We know so much more. We have seen so many ways that corruption seeps in. Such a document could be written and proposed in draft form without making any commitments. We could get all the wisest people in the world to make their suggestions if they wish to. And let everybody have a chance to comment on it.

Then, let an international team of Nobel Prize winners contemplate all the best suggestions, from the popular to the well-regarded, and by the most scholarly, and they shall produce a final version for ratification by all the nations of the world.

That way, everybody can consider it and decide for themselves.
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Nirvana fallacy.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Sorry, Ms. Poli, but as previously noted, I strongly doubt human beings are capable of handling such power without devolving into corruption like the USSR and PRC. Look at our own nation where we freely elected an adulterous lying pedophile who attempted a coup and was supported by thousands in his efforts. This doesn’t even address his desire to start a war with Mexico and commit mass murder in the streets of Washington, DC.

Disagreed on “only chance” with world government. I do agree that, if properly done, including the maturity of our species to handle it, that a global government is the best way to maximize the human race and reach for the stars. Again, while we may do some reaching off-planet, I strongly doubt we're ready for a world government.
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Hallucinations. TDS.
 
PoliTalker said:
Then, let an international team of Nobel Prize winners contemplate all the best suggestions, from the popular to the well-regarded, and by the most scholarly, and they shall produce a final version for ratification by all the nations of the world.
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Yea, sure... Some of these might include the likes (historically) of...

Frank Kellogg, US secretary of state in 1928 who drew up a treaty renouncing all war signed by many world leaders. How'd that work out ten years later?
Yasser Arafat, the Palestinian terrorist and leader who was utterly corrupt amassing hundreds of millions...
Kofi Annon, head of the UN who's corrupt actions included funneling millions in an arms for food program in Iraq through his son he appointed to himself. Remind you of anyone else atm?
Barack Obama. Did absolutely nothing but got one.

So, you want a bunch of people who really aren't all that qualified to make such decisions for everyone making decisions for everyone. Thanks but no thanks.

https://www.wcofun.com/the-simpsons-season-10-episode-22-they-saved-lisa’s-brain-2

The Simpsons already did a parody of that bullshit, quite effectively.
 
Anybody with love in their heart would want world peace.

That could be possible with a world government.

Just think of it.

No more war.
 
What is the most common answer from the most beautiful women in a pageant?

The one thing they would want the most.

World Peace.

Keep beauty in your heart and we could get there.
 
PoliTalker said:
What a different world it could be if humans really had their stuff together.

What we really need is one wholesome and well managed efficient powerful world government, made up of good altruistic people dedicated to doing the best job they can for the people, for society. Take away all the biggest and most lethal guns and weapons from general society. Let people have guns for hunting and target shooting competitions, collectors, stuff like that. Have amazing programs to deal with any aggression, treating it as a threat to others and world peace. Let there be a huge worldwide mental health counseling program designed to compassionately deal with aggressive people.

Let policing be extensively studied, perfected, and regulated on the world scale.

Let Monarchs be for symbolic example-setting purposes only.

Let there be complete freedom of religion, but make it illegal for churches or religions to get into politics. Belief should be a personal decision, and no religion-oriented organization would be allowed to have any influence into politics. Parts of some religions would be deemed illegal. Tough luck. Humanity is better off without religions trying to control people. Religions need to stick to attempting to provide answers to the great unanswered questions. That's it. There would be no need to provide social services because ultimately efficient and logical governments eliminate such needs.

Let there be a World Constitution that says all economies will be a combination of capitalism and socialism.

Socialism for the basic needs of every individual, taking from the rich and giving to the poor, but only in amounts enough to sustain the poor comfortably, allowing the rich to keep whatever is left after the level of taxation needed to provide for everyone. The basic needs would include a home, ample food, clothing, energy, transportation, utility services, local arts and shows, municipal services such as libraries, parks, etc, some entertainment, activities, healthcare and retirement.

Capitalism for everything else. All the wants and desires above and beyond the basic comfortable life.

Let there be no destitution, and let that be guaranteed by the World Government. We have the capability within our means.

It would be the embodiment of Roosevelt's 2nd Bill Of Rights.

Let those lofty goals be included in the World Constitution. Let the World Government have all the greatest weapons. Those nations with that technology ALL agree to give it up and put it under the control of the World Government.

Let the most powerful positions in the World Government have unbelievably complex restrictions over who can hold them. Let that be a long list of requirements. Certain age, education, glowing record of leadership. I am thinking minimum age for the highest positions to be 60?

Let there be no corruption. Have every possible avenue of corruption prevented by law. Complex law. Make sure there is oversight and enforcement for every law. Both for the World Government, and all national governments.

Let nations have only small military forces. Let most military service be in service to the world. Able to easily overcome that of any nation which assumed an aggressive stance. Able to maintain borders, (which would actually become rather irrelevant and symbolic.) Also able to defend Earth in a coordinated way, should that need ever arise.

Tax all nations in accordance with their GDP to pay for all of this.

An immense number of jobs would be created to run the World Government. People could work if they wanted to and could qualify for it, but they would not have to if they didn't aspire to it. Working would be rewarded with increased wealth, but since there would be no poverty, everyone would have the chance to be happy.

What a different world it could be.
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Globalist lies are what are being used to divert attention from the collapse of world commerce that is creating, expanding and aggravating the miseries of the people around the world.

Competition is the remedy. Global control is the sickness.
 
Hello Code1211,

Code1211 said:
Globalist lies are what are being used to divert attention from the collapse of world commerce that is creating, expanding and aggravating the miseries of the people around the world.

Competition is the remedy. Global control is the sickness.
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Please note: Capitalism would be written into the World Constitution.

Competition is all fine and well, but not for survival. Humans should have a right to live.
 
PoliTalker said:
Anybody with love in their heart would want world peace.

That could be possible with a world government.

Just think of it.

No more war.
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War has been one of the greatest driving forces behind the technological advancement of humanity in history. It has also been the driving cause behind much of the social and political development of mankind. In perpetual peace, mankind would languish and stagnate.
Look at the most successful people in any society. They rarely are the peaceful ones that accept the status quo.

A paternalistic government with totalitarian powers would enslave mankind and bring the world to ruin.
 
PoliTalker said:
Anybody with love in their heart would want world peace.

That could be possible with a world government.

Just think of it.

No more war.
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Ummm….not so sure about that.

What, in your opinion, are the primary causes of war? IMO, regardless of the stated reasons, it boils down to competition for resources; two tribes fight over hunting grounds, two states fighting over control of a river, minerals or even people (laborers/slaves).

Why is China building up their navy? Why the disputes about territory in the South China Sea? Undersea resources; specifically minerals but also fish farming.

When mankind is able to develop a means to efficiently tap into the energy of the Universe along with matter conversion then there will be no competition for resources…only “living space”. The Universe has virtually unlimited lebensraum. IMO, unlimited energy and unlimited access to will deconflict people by allowing them to spread out.

Of course the other alternative is for Homo sapiens sapiens to evolve into a more sophisticated animal than a warring naked ape. LOL
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Ummm….not so sure about that.

What, in your opinion, are the primary causes of war? IMO, regardless of the stated reasons, it boils down to competition for resources; two tribes fight over hunting grounds, two states fighting over control of a river, minerals or even people (laborers/slaves).

Why is China building up their navy? Why the disputes about territory in the South China Sea? Undersea resources; specifically minerals but also fish farming.

When mankind is able to develop a means to efficiently tap into the energy of the Universe along with matter conversion then there will be no competition for resources…only “living space”. The Universe has virtually unlimited lebensraum. IMO, unlimited energy and unlimited access to will deconflict people by allowing them to spread out.

Of course the other alternative is for Homo sapiens sapiens to evolve into a more sophisticated animal than a warring naked ape. LOL
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and its the globalists who are ready to kill everybody for their vision of things.
 
PoliTalker said:
Anybody with love in their heart would want world peace.

That could be possible with a world government.

Just think of it.

No more war.
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Not the way to world peace. It's is the way to war.

Want peace? There is an easy solution. Profit. You don't go around shooting your customers.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Code1211,



Please note: Capitalism would be written into the World Constitution.

Competition is all fine and well, but not for survival. Humans should have a right to live.
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Capitalism is not a form of government.
Competition is fine, including for survival. It has always been that way. Sitting around and doing nothing is not going to feed you, get you water to drink, clothe you, or build a shelter for you. It will not cure you when you are sick.

Do that long enough, and you will die.

Government does not care about you. It only cares about itself.
 
Into the Night said:
Capitalism is not a form of government.
Competition is fine, including for survival. It has always been that way. Sitting around and doing nothing is not going to feed you, get you water to drink, clothe you, or build a shelter for you. It will not cure you when you are sick.

Do that long enough, and you will die.

Government does not care about you. It only cares about itself.
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I'm thinking when Corporate Capitalism can buy and sell government officials, it is a type of government!
 
Capitalism built America and then proceeded to destroy it.

We never reached our potential as a nation and should perhaps start from scratch because this republic is now unsalvageable.
 
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