OH you missed the post where I answered your questions, sir dickweed.
I'd find it for you and bump it up, but I feel you should do it yourself...you have to get some excerise besides what you get jumping to conclusions.
What are the Dems up to threatening Turkey?
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OH you missed the post where I answered your questions, sir dickweed.
I'd find it for you and bump it up, but I feel you should do it yourself...you have to get some excerise besides what you get jumping to conclusions.
What, are you 12 years old?
"hurting relations", and going to war are two entirely different things. No nation I've ever heard of goes to war, because of a vote in a house panel. It simply doesn't happen. If the turks want to invade, their going to do it based on their national interest. Not because of nancy pelosi.
No they didn't. The turks announced the vote was going to be held in parliament BEFORE the House committee took the vote. I gave you the link.
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"No they didn't. The turks announced the vote was going to be held in parliament BEFORE the House committee took the vote. I gave you the link."
Seriously... you are truly a fucking moron. Did you even read this?????
"They warned us that this resolution would "hurt" relations between our countries and that it would lead to consequences. They followed our committees decision to hold a vote with a decision to hold a vote on authorizing force. They followed our committees passing the vote and desire to go to the full house with the passing of their amendment to use force. "
Would it help if I numbered it for you?????
1)They warned us that this resolution would "hurt" relations between our countries and that it would lead to consequences.
2) They followed our committees decision to hold a vote with a decision to hold a vote on authorizing force. (this is where they announced their intention to hold the vote AFTER the committee said they would proceed with the vote on the Armenian resolution)
THEN....
3) They followed our committees passing the vote and desire to go to the full house with the passing of their amendment to use force.
Then what happened Cypress???? THEN and only THEN did our idiots in DC realize the Turks weren't fucking kidding. NOW we are likely going to see the politicians stumble all over themselves to try to repair relations so that once again Turkey will feel obliged not to go into Iraq in force.
Seriously... you are truly a fucking moron. Did you even read this?????
"They warned us that this resolution would "hurt" relations between our countries and that it would lead to consequences. They followed our committees decision to hold a vote with a decision to hold a vote on authorizing force. They followed our committees passing the vote and desire to go to the full house with the passing of their amendment to use force. "
Would it help if I numbered it for you?????
1)They warned us that this resolution would "hurt" relations between our countries and that it would lead to consequences.
2) They followed our committees decision to hold a vote with a decision to hold a vote on authorizing force. (this is where they announced their intention to hold the vote AFTER the committee said they would proceed with the vote on the Armenian resolution)
THEN....
3) They followed our committees passing the vote and desire to go to the full house with the passing of their amendment to use force.
Then what happened Cypress???? THEN and only THEN did our idiots in DC realize the Turks weren't fucking kidding. NOW we are likely going to see the politicians stumble all over themselves to try to repair relations so that once again Turkey will feel obliged not to go into Iraq in force.
Which one can be blamed on the dems?
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Ok...wow... nice response. Of course they are backing down because they know it will be pinned on them.... because they would deserve to have it pinned on them and they fucking know it. They would have deliberately hurt relations with an ally that is currently assisting us in the war. They would have DESERVED the blame.
So, because our supply lines are hampered it is ok to hamper them further? Excellent logic.
Which one seems more likely?
1) The turks are saber-rattling, because of an upsurge in Kurdish attacks?
Upsurge in Kurdish attacks raises pressure on Turkish prime minister to order Iraq invasion
Bomb brings death toll of soldiers in one day to 15
Tuesday October 9, 2007
http://www.guardian.co.uk/turkey/story/0,,2186529,00.html
OR............Superfreak's theory:
2) That a vote on a U.S. House panel forced the turks to consider military action?
We report, you decide!
P.S.: Note that the upsurge in Kurdish attacks AND the turkish governments consideration of the military option came BEFORE the house panel vote
1) The turks are saber-rattling, because of an upsurge in Kurdish attacks?
Upsurge in Kurdish attacks raises pressure on Turkish prime minister to order Iraq invasion
Bomb brings death toll of soldiers in one day to 15
Tuesday October 9, 2007
http://www.guardian.co.uk/turkey/story/0,,2186529,00.html
OR............Superfreak's theory:
2) That a vote on a U.S. House panel forced the turks to consider military action?
We report, you decide!
P.S.: Note that the upsurge in Kurdish attacks AND the turkish governments consideration of the military option came BEFORE the house panel vote
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If you two morons would actually pay attention.... you would have seen the grown- ups have already stated that the Kurds incursions are the source of the problem and that it is our relationship with Turkey that has kept Turkey from going into Iraq in force.
You would also quit making these idiotic assertation that it is simply Turkey rattling sabres. Why the fuck do you think we are so desperate to avoid that final straw being thrown on the Turks back? We know how much they want to go into Iraq and deal with the Kurds. The one thing holding them back is their desire to maintain a good relationship with the U.S. So when a group of politicians tells the Turks the U.S. really doesn't care about the relationship... what exactly would hold them back???
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"That a vote on a U.S. House panel forced the turks to consider military action"
Tell me Cypress, you fucking liar..... where did I, or anyone else for that matter.... EVER suggest that the House panel vote "forced the Turks to consider military action"????
This is why you were on ignore. Making up complete strawmen. Back to ignore you go.
Tell me Cypress, you fucking liar..... where did I, or anyone else for that matter.... EVER suggest that the House panel vote "forced the Turks to consider military action"????
This is why you were on ignore. Making up complete strawmen. Back to ignore you go.
Which is good. IMO. Earlier I had taken the word of another poster that it has passed. I corrected myself on that and stated I would urge my rep to vote against it, and hoped others would as well. It is unlikely to cause any good things to happen.
I agree, that they seem to be seeing reason now and realizing that this could cause serious delitory effects to the troops on the ground. That what we said probably would happen, is.
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I know. Yet now the idiot Cypress is spinning his strawmen just as fast as he can. Trying to imply that I am somehow mis-stating the chronology, when in reality he simply won't read what was written. Then implying that I suggested that the house committee vote somehow "forced the Turks to consider force".
You have far more patience than I do. I envy that.
Good. Then it appears you agree that the house panel vote played virutally no role in causing turkey to consider attacking Iraq.
The house panel vote is a minor side show, in fact. It may ruffle some feathers diplomatically, but it certainly not going to be the CAUSE of a turkish invasion of iraq. The turks have been periodically invading iraqi kurdistan for the last 15 years. This is nothing New.
While the house panel vote may be an irritant to turkish pride, I'll tell you what is REALLY pissing the turks off: Your and Bush's war and occupation of iraq. From the turkish perspective, you and Bush have created a disaster, you have fostered kurdish nationalism, and you've given PKK a safe santuary to operate out of to attack turkey. This is not Nancy Pelosi's doing....its the direct result of your and Bush's War.
Giving it a quote, because once you begin you should end the argument. And he believes no such thing.
He believes that it was cause and effect, because he believed their government officials.
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But globalists hate making more countries, unless it's israel. A new country means a new government they have to infiltrate and pervert with their noahidism. So it's not that it can't happen, it's we won't let it happen.
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My point asshat is that Israel isn't a "new" country either. It was created close to the same time that Iraq/Iran etc... were created at the division of the Ottoman empire after WWI.
I also disagree with your assessment that we "won't let it happen". If someone could get the ME countries to agree to redesign the region based on their religious differences, that would probably be oneof the best things that could happen.... we would welcome that in my opinion.
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He will never get it. Instead he will create his spin and strawmen in the vain attempt to get others to think he is making an argument. He is an idiot.
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"Originally Posted by Cypress
Good. Then it appears you agree that the house panel vote played virutally no role in causing turkey to consider attacking Iraq. "
No you fucking moronic retard..... that is most certainly NOT what I said, not even close... idiot.
Good. Then it appears you agree that the house panel vote played virutally no role in causing turkey to consider attacking Iraq. "
No you fucking moronic retard..... that is most certainly NOT what I said, not even close... idiot.
Lao Tse
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Relative to most countries, it's new.
If we wanted it to happen, we would make it happen. The fact is that the globalist controllers hate ethnic difference and sovereign nations and find it a nuisance that small ethnicities think they deserve their own country. They call it "balkanization". They consider it a "bad thing", like "populism", which rocks, by the way.
Go Populism.