What if everyone voted? The case for 100 percent democracy.

Universal voting takes seriously the Declaration of Independence’s insistence that government is legitimate only when it is based on the “consent of the governed.” The Founders did not say “some of the governed” (even 66.8 percent). Including everyone in our system of government would live up to the promise made at the birth of our republic. Universal voting would tear down barriers and elevate our civic obligations.

More than two dozen democratic countries have versions of compulsory participation. One of the most successful models is Australia’s. The United States adopted the secret ballot after Australia tried it first. We should do the same with universal voting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...g-would-end-legal-battles-over-ballot-access/

Sorry, you dumbass. We are a Republic.
 
I agree that a dissenting vote is valuable information.

But forcing people to vote under penalty of a fine is ludicrous.

It also would force more, poor people to vote (who can less easily afford the fine) than middle/upper class people.
And lower class people are generally less intelligent/educated...that is a fact.
These people hold more simplistic ideas, know little of the world and are easy to con.

Forcing more gullible/stupid people to vote is NOT what America needs.

The idea is not only morally flawed.
But I say it would hurt America - not help it.

The bolded certainly sounds like a generalization - almost like you're speaking for the whole group.
 
I'm not making a specific case about some person, but rather a generality.

So you want literacy tests?

Those are unconstitutional.


There are clearly lazy, stupid, and uninformed people in the US population

Whose fault is that?

The folks who have spent their entire lives attacking public education, whittling it down, intimidating teachers and staff, and giving public school funding to underperforming, religious private charter rip-offs.

All that shit you spent your entire life doing produced the result YOU WANTED; a bunch of brain-dead morons who think Jesus rode dinosaurs and had blonde hair and blue eyes.

So I don't understand why you're suddenly angry about an uninformed electorate after you spent your entire adult life doing everything you could to ensure that there was.
 
and the left says they love freedom of choice, just not freedom of not choosing ROFL

There is no such thing as "freedom of not choosing".

That's just a bullshit excuse to be lazy.

You bitch about a system you refuse to participate in...that makes you a bitchass.
 
This would be the worst nightmare for the GOP.

If everyone voted, the Democrats would be more left, and Republicans would be more centrist. They'd have to take their attention away from suppressing the vote, and modify their platform for a broader appeal.

Describe suppressing!
 
seems kinda harsh when you put it that way...

on the bright side, the winners always get 100% of the vote !

exactly.

Manufacturing Consent.
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Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media
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Cover of the first edition
Authors
Edward S. Herman
Noam Chomsky
Country United States
Language English
Subject Media of the United States
Publisher Pantheon Books
Publication date 1988
Media type Print (Hardcover, Paperback)
ISBN 0-375-71449-9
OCLC 47971712
Dewey Decimal 381/.4530223 21
LC Class P96.E25 H47 2002
Preceded by The Fateful Triangle: The United States, Israel, and the Palestinians
Followed by Necessary Illusions
Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media is a 1988 book by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky. It argues that the mass communication media of the U.S. "are effective and powerful ideological institutions that carry out a system-supportive propaganda function, by reliance on market forces, internalized assumptions, and self-censorship, and without overt coercion", by means of the propaganda model of communication.[1] The title refers to consent of the governed, and derives from the phrase "the manufacture of consent" used by Walter Lippmann in Public Opinion (1922).[2] The book was honored with the Orwell Award.

A 2002 revision takes account of developments such as the fall of the Soviet Union. A 2009 interview with the authors notes the effects of the internet on the propaganda model.[3]
 
I daresay this is about the most ignorantly hilarious thing i've read this year.

"Freedom of not choosing" in this context is merely an excuse to be lazy and disengaged.

You want to have all the benefits of heaping scorn on both sides without the responsibility of having to do anything to earn it.

I think you're afraid that if there's 100% voter turnout, you'll end up even more marginalized and isolated than you already are.

I think it would be a huge wakeup call because you wouldn't be able to posture that there is some "Silent majority" that agrees with you on things like this.
 
There's no such thing as crt, there's no such thing as the World Economic Forum,
There's no such thing as the bill of rights.

The Dem party is now the know nothing "head in a hole" party.

There's no such thing as widespread voter fraud, and we know you don't believe it either because on 1/6, you were here on JPP posting instead of attending the insurrection in DC.

So that makes me think you aren't sincere.

The greatest theft in the history of the world and you...sat on an anonymous forum and spread horseshit all day on 1/6.
 
There's no such thing as widespread voter fraud, and we know you don't believe it either because on 1/6, you were here on JPP posting instead of attending the insurrection in DC.

So that makes me think you aren't sincere.

The greatest theft in the history of the world and you...sat on an anonymous forum and spread horseshit all day on 1/6.

There totally was voter fraud.

Time Magazine Gushingly Profiles The Successful ‘Conspiracy’ To Rig The 2020 Election
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Time Magazine Gushingly Profiles The Successful ‘Conspiracy’ To Rig The 2020 Election

Time magazine’s article intones the ‘Trump is crazy’ mantra over his claims of a ‘rigged’ election while telling anyone who reads it how powerful people conspired to rig the 2020 election.

By Joy Pullmann
February 9, 2021

Corporate media has spent the last year arguing that Donald Trump’s claims about 2020 election integrity amount to “seditious” conspiracy theories. While maintaining that narrative despite the cognitive dissonance, Time magazine’s Feb. 4 cover story pulls back the curtain on a “conspiracy” among a “well-funded cabal of powerful people” in an “an extraordinary shadow effort” that successfully pushed Trump from office.

“In a way, Trump was right,” writes Time national political correspondent Molly Ball. “There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes.” She later describes this “conspiracy” as something that “sounds like a paranoid fever dream — a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information.”

Trump was treated like he had three heads for complaining the election was “rigged.” In the infamous speech he gave as violence broke out in the U.S. Capitol the day Congress certified the Electoral College votes, Trump said, “This year they rigged the election. They rigged it like they’ve never rigged an election before.” The left and some Republicans like Rep. Liz Cheney have insisted Trump’s strong claims like this incited an “insurrection.”

Yet Ball makes exactly these kinds of claims in the Time article, and goes on to substantiate them. It’s really hard to tell if the article is just a gloating bat flip, a horrifying attempt to radicalize more people among Democrats’ political opposition, or evidence the left believes Americans are so deadened under Democrat control they will not react to such public revelations of conspiracies to betray American self-governance.

The article is above all a striking work of doublespeak. It intones the “Trump is crazy” mantra at Trump’s charges of election-rigging while telling how powerful people conspired to rig the 2020 election. Ball documents a massive election-manipulation “conspiracy” among the nation’s rich and powerful. She shows an amazing level of contempt combined with ignorance about how someone who believes in self-government, as opposed to rule by oligarchs, might take this information.

Election Tampering

The conspiracy’s “work touched every aspect of the election,” Ball writes. “They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time.”

This, she and the “dozens” of conspiracists she interviewed claim, is evidence of their efforts to “protect the election.” In fact, all of these tactics weaken election integrity.

For example, mail-in ballots are known as an unreliable voting method, even without its potential assistance to criminal fraud such as ballot-stuffing, because they create margins of error well within the margin of actual votes in a close election. That’s why labor unions, Jeff Bezos, and many foreign countries refuse to use them.

Therefore, in a mail-in election such as 2020, in which half of the total votes and most of the Biden votes were mail-in, one can control the outcome simply by controlling the poll-watchers and vote-counters. Even if they are honest, their unconscious bias or the simple mayhem of unreadable handwriting and signatures creates the conditions for untrustworthy results.

We have no way of knowing how many of the approximately 65 million 2020 election mail-in ballots were legal — meaning, how many fully complied with all applicable state laws to be validly completed by eligible voters. It could be all of them. It might not be. Nobody with power seems to care to find out. Joe Biden “won,” and the bad orange man is finally gone. That’s all that matters to them, and anyone who has any concerns or questions is simply a stupid bigot, end of story, move along, nothing to see here, shut up you white supremacist domestic terrorist or we’ll put you in jail without any bail — you’re so lucky we haven’t already.

One of the core problems with the 2020 election is that many states did not follow their voting laws, suspending them with the excuse of COVID (which the Centers for Disease Control said the day before the election, after most votes were already cast, was not necessary). States were pressured or forced to do so, not by what Ball hilariously calls Trump’s “henchmen,” but by lawyered-up leftist pressure groups that strategically undermined election protections with pre-emptive lawsuits while courts rolled over for them.

These leftist lawyers were unquestionably the aggressors in this situation, as Hans van Spakovsky and others have documented, filing as many as four times the number of lawsuits Trump or Republicans filed. Their efforts caused the very “election confusion” Ball claims her vaunted “conspiracy” was trying to avoid. What do you call people who do one thing while claiming to do the opposite? Idiots or liars. And I don’t think these people are idiots.

Joy Pullmann is executive editor of The Federalist, a happy wife, and the mother of six children. Sign up here to get early access to her next book, “How To Control The Internet So It Doesn’t Control You.” Her bestselling ebook is “Classic Books for Young Children.” A Hillsdale College honors graduate, @JoyPullmann is also the author of “The Education Invasion: How Common Core Fights Parents for Control of American Kids,” from Encounter Books.

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Time Profiles The Successful 'Conspiracy' To Rig The 2020 Election
Time's article eyerolls Trump's claims of a 'rigged' election while telling anyone who reads it how powerful people conspired to rig the 2020 election.
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Universal voting takes seriously the Declaration of Independence’s insistence that government is legitimate only when it is based on the “consent of the governed.” The Founders did not say “some of the governed” (even 66.8 percent). Including everyone in our system of government would live up to the promise made at the birth of our republic. Universal voting would tear down barriers and elevate our civic obligations.

More than two dozen democratic countries have versions of compulsory participation. One of the most successful models is Australia’s. The United States adopted the secret ballot after Australia tried it first. We should do the same with universal voting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...g-would-end-legal-battles-over-ballot-access/
There is no Immigration clause in our federal Constitution. We should have no illegal problem nor any illegal underclass because all foreign nationals in the US should be known to the general Government and federally identified for civil purposes.
 
If we forced everyone qualified to vote, many of them would take the time to learn about politics. The truth is politicians' decisions do involve them. They should have input. The dumb ones would become Repubs and vote against their own issues and interests as Rightys and Trumpys do. But more participation makes the politicians more representative of the people.
 
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