What is the purpose of government?

[BidenPresident]

government is NOT intended to be the driving force creating society. any time that shit was tried, it faied.

Every US President did it. Trump did it. Biden did it. It is the norm.

 

[Celticguy]

Every US President did it. Trump did it. Biden did it. It is the norm.

cites please one for each president.

 

[BidenPresident]

cites please one for each president.

Every President refers to what is good for the country. Maybe you lost track of my thesis.

 

[Celticguy]

Every President refers to what is good for the country. Maybe you lost track of my thesis.

cite. start with Washington.

 

[BidenPresident]

cite. start with Washington.

Trump: Make America Great Again.

 

[danielpalos]

Aristotle said “the object of a state is the good life” (Politics;1280b39).

If the purpose of government is not to make people good, then what is it?

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

 

[BidenPresident]

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

uh huh

 

[Celticguy]

Trump: Make America Great Again.

swing and a miss. not a societal thing at all.

 

[Truth Detector]

Aristotle said “the object of a state is the good life” (Politics;1280b39).

If the purpose of government is not to make people good, then what is it?

More evidence of your severe lack of an education and intelligence. Government cannot make people good. It cannot improve your life. It cannot provide for you.

Government, as ours is perfectly set up to do, can only protect you, and rather poorly at the moment, protect our borders, protect patents and trademarks and administer our laws. The best thing any Government can do is get out of the way and allow the free market to thrive.

 

[Truth Detector]

Not a bad reason. But that could exist is a fascist state.

Yes. Theocracies. Dictatorships. Military Juntas. Democracies. All with a sense of law and order.

^Dumbest and dumb fuck in a circle jerk of ignorance.

 

[Truth Detector]

in simplest terms, to manage the affairs of the citizens. obviously the particulars vary by jurisdiction.

WRONG!

a few things ring across all levels, law and order for example.

One out of three isn't too bad. It's higher than zero.

 

[Truth Detector]

If government is just managing, who sets the agenda?

Government cannot "manage" anything. They fuck things up as evidenced by historical failures of those efforts.

 

[Truth Detector]

Compatible with fascism. Or totalitarianism.

Yeah, liberty and prosperity has always been under totalitarianism. You really are too stupid to know what a dumbass you are.

 

[Truth Detector]

Making people good. Do you object?

WTF does "making people good" even mean you laughably ignorant dumbass?

 

[Truth Detector]

All totalitarian states believe they are giving freedom and security.

half-wit
noun

\ ˈhaf-ˌwit , ˈhäf- \
: a foolish or stupid person

 

[Truth Detector]

Yes, they also thought segregation was legal. And that Bush had to be President.

half-wit
noun

\ ˈhaf-ˌwit , ˈhäf- \
: a foolish or stupid person

 

[Into the Night]

It's defined in our Constitution, isn't it?

No, but it is described in the Declaration of Independence. This is a philosophical question, and the Declaration of Independence describes one view on the purpose of government.

 

[Into the Night]

the national govt certainly.

any proper answer will require definitions for local, state and national govts.

The purpose of any constitution is to define and declare a government.
The structure of the federal government is defined by the Constitution of the United States.
The structure of any State government is defined by the Constitution of that State.
The structure of a city government is defined by the Constitution of that city (often called a 'city charter' or some similar name).

Government by constitution is called a republic.

 

[Into the Night]

Sure, but what is the purpose of any government?

Again, a philosophical question. One opinion can be found in the Declaration of Independence.
The Federalist Papers also contain some opinions on this subject.

 

[Into the Night]

in simplest terms, to manage the affairs of the citizens. obviously the particulars vary by jurisdiction.

a few things ring across all levels, law and order for example.

I would say this is basically the only reason. Law and order.

Yes, that could be by a dictatorship, by a republic, or even by a democracy. They ARE all forms of government.

The purpose doesn't change regardless whether there is a king, a constitution, or just a popular vote of the people (democracy).

If law has no order (such as a dictator that is constantly changing what the law IS arbitrarily), then government breaks down. Sooner or later, that king is deposed.