What Is Wrong With 68 Million Americans?

Iolo/Penderyn said:
I'm afraid that the replacement of normal class politics by competition between group on grounds of 'race', gender, sexual bias and whatever leaves the least educated amongst Americans taught to believe themselves superior so hugely threatened that they would accept any evil as long as they supposed it to be 'theirs'. Giving normal human respect to any minority group is inevitably seen as being put down by those who have fantasised that they are somehow 'masters': if anyone else is treated decently, it reduces the master-race, it seems. I do hope Mr Biden succeeds in showing them how to treat other people with decent respect so as to deserve the same treatment from others and all move forward to a human world. It fascinates me (in a depressed kind of way) that Trump supporters on here simply can't argue. All they do is insult opponent's 'group' in some vacuous way. Sometimes I respond with something similar, but the exchange always grows so tedious that I have to put 'em on 'Ignore' or die of boredom!
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Plenty of conservatives can debate. Most wouldn't bother to debate with you, however, for reasons that are specific to your attitude.
 
signalmankenneth said:
How Trump’s Mental Illness Infected 48% of the Electorate

[FONT=&]“What is wrong with 68 million Americans?” is a question many are asking the day after the election. Why should the race even be close? Why did 48% of voting adults choose to remain with a president who leaves a trail of hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths, the nation bankrupt, children in cages, and our natural habitat under existential threat?
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[FONT=&]It makes no rational sense—unless we correctly identify the problem. For almost four years, mental health professionals have been urging the nation to bring a mental health perspective to a mental health problem, instead of assuming that everything is political. All substitute approaches have failed, just as the best pandemic control comes from infectious disease specialists, not from a radiologist or economists. We have also anticipated the current situation as a product of having mental pathology in power for a prolonged period.

https://www.dcreport.org/2020/11/05/what-is-wrong-with-68-million-americans/

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If Democrats keep thinking like that, they'll get their asses kicked in 2022 and possibly 2024. Definitely by 2028....but must most don't give a shit about that, eh? That's not what this is about, is it? LOL
 
signalmankenneth said:
How Trump’s Mental Illness Infected 48% of the Electorate

[FONT=&]“What is wrong with 68 million Americans?” is a question many are asking the day after the election. Why should the race even be close? Why did 48% of voting adults choose to remain with a president who leaves a trail of hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths, the nation bankrupt, children in cages, and our natural habitat under existential threat?
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[FONT=&]It makes no rational sense—unless we correctly identify the problem. For almost four years, mental health professionals have been urging the nation to bring a mental health perspective to a mental health problem, instead of assuming that everything is political. All substitute approaches have failed, just as the best pandemic control comes from infectious disease specialists, not from a radiologist or economists. We have also anticipated the current situation as a product of having mental pathology in power for a prolonged period.

https://www.dcreport.org/2020/11/05/what-is-wrong-with-68-million-americans/

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If 68 million disagree with you, maybe you should give that some thought.
 
Saudade said:
Ok, well, Trumpet's post wasn't debate either.
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Soooo, two wrongs make a right in Mother Russia? LOL

Yes, a lot of posts aren't debate, but it's odd to complain about that fact then be guilty in the same post. ;)

As for American voters; the dichotomy of Left/Right, conservative liberal, male/female is an essential part of mankind. There are reasons why over 70 million American voted one way and another 70M+ voted the other way and "stupidity" isn't among....well, maybe for a few.

The fact the past several elections have been so close indicates major problems are festering which the fucking morons elected to fix them aren't fixing.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Soooo, two wrongs make a right in Mother Russia? LOL

Yes, a lot of posts aren't debate, but it's odd to complain about that fact then be guilty in the same post. ;)

As for American voters; the dichotomy of Left/Right, conservative liberal, male/female is an essential part of mankind. There are reasons why over 70 million American voted one way and another 70M+ voted the other way and "stupidity" isn't among....well, maybe for a few.

The fact the past several elections have been so close indicates major problems are festering which the fucking morons elected to fix them aren't fixing.
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In most other First World nations, there are more than 2 viable parties. Granted, in a lot of other First World nations, they have electoral mechanisms that allow third parties to be more than just spoiler votes.
 
Iolo/Penderyn said:
See what I mean? What do you see as the point in sending in such vacant crap?
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Because, as much as you complain about posts like mine, your attitude whenever you mention conservatives is always completely dismissive and condescending. If you want to engage people of differing views, the tone has to be very different.

Everything I've said to you is equivalent to what you send my way.
 
Saudade said:
In most other First World nations, there are more than 2 viable parties. Granted, in a lot of other First World nations, they have electoral mechanisms that allow third parties to be more than just spoiler votes.
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More of a parliamentary procedure. How would you institute that in the US?

Would it be easier to allow ranking when voting? Listing order of preference? History would most certainly have changed over the past 30 years if that had been allowed in the 1992 election. Same if it was the 2000 election. Maybe the 2012 election. I doubt it would have changed the 2016 election.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
More of a parliamentary procedure. How would you institute that in the US?

Would it be easier to allow ranking when voting? Listing order of preference? History would most certainly have changed over the past 30 years if that had been allowed in the 1992 election. Same if it was the 2000 election. Maybe the 2012 election. I doubt it would have changed the 2016 election.
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Ranked order, approval voting, instant runoff voting, single transferable votes... there are numerous methods, but only a few areas of the country implement these, and typically only for local offices.
 
Saudade said:
Ranked order, approval voting, instant runoff voting, single transferable votes... there are numerous methods, but only a few areas of the country implement these, and typically only for local offices.
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Are you advocating the Federales implement those procedures or do you advocate leaving it up to the States?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Are you advocating the Federales implement those procedures or do you advocate leaving it up to the States?
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I'd be fine with a Constitutional Amendment that accomplished this, although the likelihood of it passing is low.

More local governments need to make changes to their elections to accomplish this.
 
Saudade said:
I'd be fine with a Constitutional Amendment that accomplished this, although the likelihood of it passing is low.

More local governments need to make changes to their elections to accomplish this.
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Even getting it up for ratification is extremely low in today's toxic political environment. The nation is effectively deadlocked.

What changes in local governments? Most state governments have got it covered. After both 2000 and 9/11, States worked with the Feds to create a secure system.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Even getting it up for ratification is extremely low in today's toxic political environment. The nation is effectively deadlocked.

What changes in local governments? Most state governments have got it covered. After both 2000 and 9/11, States worked with the Feds to create a secure system.
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I was referring to implementing voting systems like the ranked choice system.

As for vote security, most states don't have the level of security that Canada has.
 
Saudade said:
I was referring to implementing voting systems like the ranked choice system.

As for vote security, most states don't have the level of security that Canada has.
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I trust US tech is adequate for our needs. Improvements can always be made.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I trust US tech is adequate for our needs. Improvements can always be made.
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I don't think technology is the problem here. Endemic corruption seems to be the issue. I don't know what the solution is to that other than to prosecute a lot of powerful people.
 
Saudade said:
I don't think technology is the problem here. Endemic corruption seems to be the issue. I don't know what the solution is to that other than to prosecute a lot of powerful people.
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Disagreed. Tech is a tool. Why be afraid of a tool unless it's a tool you don't understand? Does Arthur C. Clarke's rule about magic and technology apply here?

Tech is never the problem. The problem always is and always was people. The X factor of humanity. The best cure for that is people working together to the satisfaction of all concerned. Tech helps with those issues. This is why we have such a great system in the United States of America. Not all countries of the world have such freedom and a system to protect it.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Go listen to some people who like Trump....if you can resist acting like a jerk we will likely talk your ear off, we will keep reexplaining things in different words until your brain clicks.
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You've been 'splaining your worldview since 2015. It's full of ignorance and half-truths.
 
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