What’s wrong with Woke?

Jarod said:
I think Black Americans can be trusted to vote in their own best interests and I think its racist to claim you know better than they do about what is good for them.
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This is the trap that people fall into. They just assume 'I'm against system racism so I'll vote Democratic because that's what black people do'. Two parties, the Democrats being one of them, have dominated this country for a long time. The systems we have in place were put there by members of both of these parties. Our current President was the author of the '94 crime bill that has been dubbed The New Jim Crow. That is systemic racism. So simply voting Democratic doesn't mean one is fighting system racism.

I'll share a quote from a buddy of mine from a couple of weeks ago. He lives in a very nice Bay Area suburb. Can't get in for under $1.50m. He went to Harvard Law and is a partner at a big SF firm. He's elite. We were talking about housing and proposed development in his neighborhood that people are fighting. (My buddy is no right winger and he voted for Biden). His quote was this, "I think the view of the (his City name here) liberal elite is that we aggressively support diversity and equality as long as it doesn't adversely impact our children's education and home values."

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting liberals are the only one's who are NIMBYs because they are not. But I think his quote sums it up perfectly and until that mindset changes we won't see real change.
 
domer76 said:
You think they’d fare better by voting for a party that tries to diminish their vote? What a fucking moron.
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Its no worse thatln continuing to vote for a party that has done nothing for them but change the scenery of the plantation. You stupid fucking cancerous tumor. Go fuck your sister you inbred pig fucker.
 
Jarod said:
This is what I said...
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And I countered with an example that discounts that clam. Obesity of a mcdonald's patron is not mcdonald's fault unless you can prove otherwise. Mcdonald's doesn't force anyone to eat at their restaurants.
 
Yakuda said:
And I countered with an example that discounts that clam. Obesity of a mcdonald's patron is not mcdonald's fault unless you can prove otherwise. Mcdonald's doesn't force anyone to eat at their restaurants.
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Without McDonald's, what would they eat? And know what's funny? With so many fast food joints in Japan, they're mostly skinny. :thinking:
 
AProudLefty said:
Without McDonald's, what would they eat? And know what's funny? With so many fast food joints in Japan, they're mostly skinny. :thinking:
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I don't know what they would eat anymore than I know what anyone else would eat without mcdonald's. How is that relevant?
 
cawacko said:
This is the trap that people fall into. They just assume 'I'm against system racism so I'll vote Democratic because that's what black people do'. Two parties, the Democrats being one of them, have dominated this country for a long time. The systems we have in place were put there by members of both of these parties. Our current President was the author of the '94 crime bill that has been dubbed The New Jim Crow. That is systemic racism. So simply voting Democratic doesn't mean one is fighting system racism.

I'll share a quote from a buddy of mine from a couple of weeks ago. He lives in a very nice Bay Area suburb. Can't get in for under $1.50m. He went to Harvard Law and is a partner at a big SF firm. He's elite. We were talking about housing and proposed development in his neighborhood that people are fighting. (My buddy is no right winger and he voted for Biden). His quote was this, "I think the view of the (his City name here) liberal elite is that we aggressively support diversity and equality as long as it doesn't adversely impact our children's education and home values."

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting liberals are the only one's who are NIMBYs because they are not. But I think his quote sums it up perfectly and until that mindset changes we won't see real change.
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It is a big problem, but when faced with voting for Trump or Biden who did black people overwhelmingly vote for? Yes, Biden is bad on race, but hes not as bad as Trump. If Black people were to just sit it out or vote 3rd party, they would be in worse shape. . . And this ticket put Kamila on track toward presidential leadership one day, so you think she is bad for Black Americans, I dont.

Yes, NIMBY is a real problem, I try my best to avoid it.
 
Yakuda said:
I don't know what they would eat anymore than I know what anyone else would eat without mcdonald's. How is that relevant?
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Because you said that McDonald's doesn't force people to eat there. If they didn't exist, they wouldn't have Big Macs. No ads. No smell coming from them. Nothing.
 
Yakuda said:
And I countered with an example that discounts that clam. Obesity of a mcdonald's patron is not mcdonald's fault unless you can prove otherwise. Mcdonald's doesn't force anyone to eat at their restaurants.
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There is clearly shared fault, when McDonalds builds in poor communities intentionally, when the advertise in poor areas for the most part, when they manipulate the product to make it addictive...
 
Jarod said:
There is clearly shared fault, when McDonalds builds in poor communities intentionally, when the advertise in poor areas for the most part, when they manipulate the product to make it addictive...
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Some even accept food stamp!
 
Jarod said:
There is clearly shared fault, when McDonalds builds in poor communities intentionally, when the advertise in poor areas for the most part, when they manipulate the product to make it addictive...
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They build in poor communities intentionally? Do you have proof? How do they make the productive addictive? Any evidence of this?
 
Yakuda said:
They build in poor communities intentionally? Do you have proof? How do they make the productive addictive? Any evidence of this?
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There is tuns of evidence of it, look it up. I have to go home or I would do it for you.

What about a euthanasia clinic, they could make a nice profit?
 
It's like with cigarettes. They add chemicals to them to make them more addictive and gives them a brief high.
 
Jarod said:
Do you feel the same way about an abortion clinic? They make a profit, that profit helps the employees, it helps the economy...
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Yes I do. As much as I despise abortion clinics they make a profit but that's not the problem.
 
How about a heroin shop, if they made a profit would that be a good thing?

Maybe a shop specializing in sexual exploitation of children?
 
Jarod said:
There is tuns of evidence of it, look it up. I have to go home or I would do it for you.

What about a euthanasia clinic, they could make a nice profit?
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Well you should support the claims you make.

Again profit is not the enemy here.
 
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