Whoa. Bikini Karen Loses It in Brazil.

[Althea]

I know ... so keep your cheap punk threats to yourself.

What threats? I asked if you would like me to thread ban you, as you seem a little obsessed over this thread.

Thanks again for the bump, though.

 

[Althea]

Grumpy is a standard JPP elderly Euro-American male, single, probably living alone or in a room at a retirement facility and fearful about death which makes him angry too.

Yes. He clearly has some shit to work out.

 

[Althea]

Was this a racial issue? Or was it a social/economic/class issue?

I'm thinking that when the couple stated that this ni##er should be behind them in line, it became a racial issue.

 

[Althea]

Me or PMP?

PMP

 

[Althea]

Matt's usually drunk. Hawkeye is always cross-faded.

I don't see Hawk's posts. Couldn't take it anymore. Took him off of ignore for a bit to discuss houseplants.

What could go wrong there?

 

[Jack]

I'm thinking that when the couple stated that this ni##er should be behind them in line, it became a racial issue.

This is in Brazil, right? Were they speaking in English? Or some kind of Portuguese equivalent?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I think there's just an element of human reality that hate, bigotry and even racism will always exist. It's been around as long as we have and it is a worthwhile mindset to want to reduce it as much as possible, it's also not going to totally go away (that's not to suggest we just accept racist acts rather just understanding human reality)

This is purely anecdotal but close to a decade ago I went to China for work. I had two hosts with me throughout the trip. Both were Chinese natives but had spent time in the States so they were 'Americanized' to a degree. One asked where I grew up. I told him Oakland and you could just see the look on his face (it's a look I've gotten before because for some reason people assume Oakland is 100% black and no white people live there). Eventually he started talking about the racism in China and how people there often view black folks. It was certainly eye opening to me and maybe that attitude explains why there is often tension in America between black and Asian communities.

I state this because we're talking about an incident in Brazil and I'm under the assumption no Americans were involved in it. These type of attitudes exist on a global scale (unfortunately).

Agreed that human element exists because human stupidity exists. Most of those who hate, are bigoted and/or racist are low IQ, poorly educated or otherwise on the backside of the Human Power curve.

One day we'll be able to alter genes to prevent low IQ and/or mentally defective people in vitro. Until then, stupid people will continue to exist.

Improving our education programs would be a big help.

NOTE: this isn't a slam on being conservative per se. It's an explanation for idiots like on 1/6 or any other violent riots, attacks by bigots and other violence from stupid people.


Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
As suspected, low intelligence in childhood corresponded with racism in adulthood. But the factor that explained the relationship between these two variables was political: When researchers included social conservatism in the analysis, those ideologies accounted for much of the link between brains and bias.

People with lower cognitive abilities also had less contact with people of other races.

"This finding is consistent with recent research demonstrating that intergroup contact is mentally challenging and cognitively draining, and consistent with findings that contact reduces prejudice," said Hodson, who along with his colleagues published these results online Jan. 5 in the journal Psychological Science.

 

[Diesel]

I think there's just an element of human reality that hate, bigotry and even racism will always exist. It's been around as long as we have and it is a worthwhile mindset to want to reduce it as much as possible, it's also not going to totally go away (that's not to suggest we just accept racist acts rather just understanding human reality)

This is purely anecdotal but close to a decade ago I went to China for work. I had two hosts with me throughout the trip. Both were Chinese natives but had spent time in the States so they were 'Americanized' to a degree. One asked where I grew up. I told him Oakland and you could just see the look on his face (it's a look I've gotten before because for some reason people assume Oakland is 100% black and no white people live there). Eventually he started talking about the racism in China and how people there often view black folks. It was certainly eye opening to me and maybe that attitude explains why there is often tension in America between black and Asian communities.

I state this because we're talking about an incident in Brazil and I'm under the assumption no Americans were involved in it. These type of attitudes exist on a global scale (unfortunately).

They do exist, but I'm talking about the refusal of so many Americans to refuse that it exists. That, I believe, is the premise of the thread.

 

[Diesel]

Yeah, with people like him I'd add 10-20 lbs to whatever he says.

But he's an expert on militias, Q anon, the white supremacist agenda and breaking oaths.

He considers himself a boss. He's a Chubby Baby Trump. He likes to pretend to run things but never actually does anything. I'm sure he was a spectator of the insurrection, but he was too fat, lazy, and scared to go.

 

[Diesel]

I love the real Christians and, God forgive me, I love tagging the Faux Xtians.

PMP is another good one. Hateful as hell with the word "prophet" in his screen name.

 

[Diesel]

Same here. You can tell when someone is just running their mouth. I laugh the entire time, and it ruins their whole day. On the few occasions when things got a little testy, one of my teammates shows up and towers over the little wimp.

I tell them 'You know I had this under control, right?'.

Sports teammates?

 

[Diesel]

PMP

Pretty sure Grumpy was talking about me, not PMP.

 

[Diesel]

I don't see Hawk's posts. Couldn't take it anymore. Took him off of ignore for a bit to discuss houseplants.

What could go wrong there?

Everything.

 

[cawacko]

They do exist, but I'm talking about the refusal of so many Americans to refuse that it exists. That, I believe, is the premise of the thread.

What you're talking about specifically is white against black (or other minority) racism. People like TDAK will tell you racism exists in the U.S., and its against white people. Or they'll point to black and Asian racism etc. So it's not a matter of them refusing to believe it exists, rather they just don't focus on white racism.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Yes. He clearly has some shit to work out.

True, but he won't. Like most of that particular demographic, he's given up on both living and learning. He's just waiting to die because he can't take his own life.

Do you remember how Bullshit Bob harassed an over 65 member for going back to college? "Whut fer???" or something like that before he went on a weeks long tirade about adults going to college. That's their attitude.

They've given up, which is their choice, but when they seek to drag down others with them is when I love to leap in and trounce them.
Everybody needs a hobby, right?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

What you're talking about specifically is white against black (or other minority) racism. People like TDAK will tell you racism exists in the U.S., and its against white people. Or they'll point to black and Asian racism etc. So it's not a matter of them refusing to believe it exists, rather they just don't focus on white racism.

Anyone can be a bigot. There is zero evidence that skin-tone, nationality or religion absolves anyone.

As the link above notes, low IQ and poorly educated have more bigots.

 

[cawacko]

Anyone can be a bigot. There is zero evidence that skin-tone, nationality or religion absolves anyone.

As the link above notes, low IQ and poorly educated have more bigots.

Though not specifically said the argument here is that certain people ignore white racism.

And you can be educated and bigoted. More educated people probably don't go around using the n*word and other racial slurs but that doesn't mean they don't have bigotry. And some minorities will tell you they prefer the former. Not because they like it but rather at least they know where they stand with the person as opposed to the latter who better hides it.

 

[Diesel]

What you're talking about specifically is white against black (or other minority) racism. People like TDAK will tell you racism exists in the U.S., and its against white people. Or they'll point to black and Asian racism etc. So it's not a matter of them refusing to believe it exists, rather they just don't focus on white racism.

I understand that distinction. But you realize, I hope, that people like TDAK aren't actually perceiving nor experiencing anti-white racism. They're using the slight of hand to negate the discriminatory experiences of racial minorities.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

He considers himself a boss. He's a Chubby Baby Trump. He likes to pretend to run things but never actually does anything. I'm sure he was a spectator of the insurrection, but he was too fat, lazy, and scared to go.

Good and agreed. He even likes to brag like Trump.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Though not specifically said the argument here is that certain people ignore white racism.

And you can be educated and bigoted. More educated people probably don't go around using the n*word and other racial slurs but that doesn't mean they don't have bigotry. And some minorities will tell you they prefer the former. Not because they like it but rather at least they know where they stand with the person as opposed to the latter who better hides it.

TBH, I see that as LW agenda. The reality is that, if 10% of any group are fucking asshole racists, then the Euro-Americans would have about 25M racist assholes and the African-Americans would have about 4.5M racist assholes.

Yes, there are assholes in every group, but the results in the US is that Euro-American racism is the main driver of the problem by sheer weight of numbers and a systemic history of culture.

FWIW, I believe it's better to look forward and plan forward. In that case, better education and the elimination of systemic racism which has institutionalized racism in America.