Why do people still believe in Jesus and Christianity?

Dutch Uncle said:
FTFY, Fredo. :thup:

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That's not the golden rule.
 
Cypress said:
My theory is that the West's lingering and historic apprehension of Muslims goes back 600 years, and has nothing to do with Arabs of the Near East, Persian Gulf, and North Africa.

It has everything to do with the Europeans being terrified of the Ottoman Turks, and the savage warrior ethos of the central Asian Turkic tribes of the steppes. Ottoman Turk expansion into Europe left a vivid cultural impression in the West's collective consciousness of the militarism and supposed unbounded cruelty of the Turkic-speaking "barbarians" from the central Asian steppes.

I still believe there is a lingering cultural residue in the consciousness of western civilization regarding the cruel Turkic barbarians steppe tribes.
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arab Islam really is very radicalized and violent at this time in history.

it's not a xenophobic tribal archetype, you fucking oaf-tard.
 
countryboy said:
The BOR guarantees freedom OF religion, not freedom from religion. It has nothing to do with the SCOTUS.
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Actually it works both ways. The key to the Sep clause in the Const is that it does not allow for the establishment of a state religion. It keeps religion out of government and government out of religion. As such it also provides a freedom FROM religion being pushed into government or public policy.
 
Daylight63 said:
This seems to animate you quite a bit. Don't get me wrong, I think the Golden Rule and the Categorical Imperative are all great things. But you seem to be positively obsessed and bringing it up in every single thread even if it relates or not. At least here it was close to appropriate.
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and you agree with the sentiment.

I expect you to get on board.
 
Daylight63 said:
This seems to animate you quite a bit. Don't get me wrong, I think the Golden Rule and the Categorical Imperative are all great things. But you seem to be positively obsessed and bringing it up in every single thread even if it relates or not. At least here it was close to appropriate.
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morality is always relevant in every topic.

thanks ahead of time for agreeing.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Correct. So? So is fucking in public or abusing children. They have drawn the line, for religion, at homosexuality and abortion. Where do you draw the line?

What laws would you impose on others regardless if they liked it or not?
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so atheists are fine with abusing children?



looks like morality is rational and not explicitly religious doesn't it.
 
Daylight63 said:
Actually it works both ways. The key to the Sep clause in the Const is that it does not allow for the establishment of a state religion. It keeps religion out of government and government out of religion. As such it also provides a freedom FROM religion being pushed into government or public policy.
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It's impossible to have freedom of religion exist in the same space as freedom from religion. And yes, while the first amendment does prohibit the government from establishing a state religion, it mentions nothing about keeping religion out of government. Absolutely nothing. You're just making that up.
 
countryboy said:
It's impossible to have freedom of religion exist in the same space as freedom from religion. And yes, while the first amendment does prohibit the government from establishing a state religion, it mentions nothing about keeping religion out of government. Absolutely nothing. You're just making that up.
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no it isn't.

this is a stupid comment.
 
countryboy said:
It's impossible to have freedom of religion exist in the same space as freedom from religion. And yes, while the first amendment does prohibit the government from establishing a state religion, it mentions nothing about keeping religion out of government. Absolutely nothing. You're just making that up.
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how do you imagine religion will be put into government such that a citizen cannot avoid religion?

wtf do you think is happening right now?

YOu want Imams to rule America or something?
 
countryboy said:
It's impossible to have freedom of religion exist in the same space as freedom from religion. And yes, while the first amendment does prohibit the government from establishing a state religion, it mentions nothing about keeping religion out of government. Absolutely nothing. You're just making that up.
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The Cathedral Church of Saint Peter and Saint Paul in the City and Diocese of Washington, commonly known as Washington National Cathedral or National Cathedral, is a cathedral of the Episcopal Church owned by the federal government. The cathedral is located in Washington, D.C., the capital of the United States.
 
goat said:
The Cathedral Church of Saint Peter and Saint Paul in the City and Diocese of Washington, commonly known as Washington National Cathedral or National Cathedral, is a cathedral of the Episcopal Church owned by the federal government. The cathedral is located in Washington, D.C., the capital of the United States.
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And I'm sure it's no coincidence that the head priestess, or whatever the hell her title is, is a radical left-wing lunatic.
 
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