Why Do Trumppers pretend we are not a Democracy?

Bigdog said:
Mussolini is the father of Fascism.
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No. He may have coined the word, but fascism existed long before Mussolini. Fascism is government manipulation of markets. Even the Romans did that.
Bigdog said:
What "other aspects" did he want to control?
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Oh...everything.
Bigdog said:
The German people, under Hitler, were national socialists like FDR.
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The German people had no real choice of anything under Hitler. Hitler was a fascist, which is a form of socialism, and a communist which is another form of socialism. He also was a slaver, yet another form of socialism.
Yes...like FDR.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
The founding fathers of America adamantly opposed democracy, as mob rule.

[FONT="][URL="https://www.azquotes.com/quote/523439?ref=founding-fathers-democracy"]Democracies have been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their death.[/URL][/FONT]
[FONT="][URL="https://www.azquotes.com/author/9277-James_Madison"]James Madison[/URL]


It has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity.
Alexander Hamilton

Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.
John Marshall
The experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short-lived.
John Quincy Adams

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I think you are relying on the founding fathers of the Soviet Union again.
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Speaking for the dead doesn't really get you anywhere.
The United States was formed with each State having a constitution (a republic) and the federal government having a constitution (a republic) resulting in a federated republic.
A democracy has no constitution and no representatives.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
It seems to be part of the conservative mentality which is black/white, yes/no. It's why they don't want to compromise or admit they are wrong.
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/black-and-white-thinking
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It the rule of law versus the capricious rule of men.

What we see now with the weaponized Department of Injustice is exactly the type of "democracy" you fascists yearn for, 51% of the population depriving the other 49% of all rights.

You fascists suffer from this;

Megalomania - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics
 
Bigdog said:
Well, at least you admitted you LIED.

Government controlled means of production, ... that is fascism.
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It is, as fascism is a form of socialism.

The definition of Socialism is the ownership or control of the means of production by the state or central authority.
 
Bigdog said:
Please explain why you say that, ITN.
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It's very simple. Words existed before dictionaries. They are defined by people. Many words stem from foreign words combined to produce the words we use today.
For example: democracy stems from the greek words 'damos' (meaning people) and 'kratia' (meaning law). In other words, government by popular vote. There is no constitution. There are no representatives. It is literally mob rule. The Greeks tried this in Athens. It quickly dissolved into a dictatorship.

That's the problem with democracies. They are an unstable form of government. They usually dissolve into an oligarchy or dictatorship before long.


Eytomology is the study of the origins of words and phrases.

Words can arrive from foreign languages (most do), or just come about as a bit of slang that becomes popular.
Examples:
'karate' comes from Japan, where 'kara' means 'empty' and 'te' means 'hand. In other words, hand-to-hand fighting.

'Karaoke' stems from 'kara' (empty) and 'oke' (orchestra), in other words, an empty orchestra. A sing along device.

'Atheist' stems from 'theo', meaning god or religion, and the prefix 'a-' which negates it. In other words an atheist has no religion at all. He doesn't care whether any god or gods exist or not. Science itself is atheistic. It simply doesn't go there. It matters not to science whether a god or gods exist or not.

The word 'heat' is defined by the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Heat is the flow of thermal energy (not the thermal energy itself, only it's flow). Energy dissipates from concentrated areas across an entire region uniformly, so heat always flows from 'hot' (an concentration of thermal energy) to 'cold' (a relative void in thermal energy). Heat never flows from cold to hot, as is claimed by the Church of Global Warming.

The word 'real' or 'reality' comes from a branch of philosophy, which is nothing more than a reasoned argument (You have to supply the argument AND the reasoning for it yourself!). This branch is called 'phenomenology', or the arguments and reasoning discussing how we perceive the world through our senses. Recent movies exploring this kind of concept is the Matrix series.

The word 'science' is also defined through philosophy. So is 'religion'. Current arguments suggest science is nothing more than a set of falsifiable theories. That's it. That's all of science. Religions can be thought of by their common characteristics. ALL religions are based on some initial circular argument with arguments extending from that. Christianity, for example, states that Christ exists and that He is who He says He is, namely the Son of God. This is the initial circular argument. ALL other arguments about Christianity stem from this initial argument. The other name for the circular argument is the Argument of Faith. It in and of itself is not a fallacy, but trying to prove one True or False creates the circular argument fallacy, an error in logic.

See the philosophies of Karl Popper to get started in how 'science' is defined. It has been distilled down from his argument and reasoning for it since, by other philosophers.

Note that no dictionary is mentioned here at all. No dictionary owns any word.
 
Jarod said:
The moon is made of green cheese, the Earth is flat, Trump won…
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The Moon is made of stone and dust, just like Earth. Neither the Earth nor the Moon is flat. Trump won in 2016. There was no election in 2020, since if faulted due to election fraud by Democrats.
 
Jarod said:
The moon is made of green cheese, the Earth is flat, Trump won…
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Republic is democracy, America is a democracy.

Stupid people make stupid claims.

and vote democrat.

When the Constitution is destroyed, your party rules with an iron fist, and the autocracy you seek reigns supreme - what do you think you will personally gain? Revenge against those smarter and more successful than you?

What motivates you to wage war on America, to try and burn it all down?
 
Into the Night said:
Eytomology is the study of the origins of words and phrases.

Note that no dictionary is mentioned here at all. No dictionary owns any word.
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Ok. Dictionaries, past and present, are the main tool of etymology .

We use dictionaries so we can all agree on a definition, so we can understand each other.
 
Bigdog said:
Ok. Dictionaries, past and present, are the main tool of etymology .
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No. Dictionaries are not eytomology.
Bigdog said:
We use dictionaries so we can all agree on a definition, so we can understand each other.
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Don't need a dictionary for that! No dictionary defines any word. People communicated quite well before there were dictionaries!

Dictionaries server a purpose, but it's not to define any word. They are used to standardize spelling and pronunciation. They also give examples of how a word is used, but it does not define any word. Indeed, these examples even conflict with each other from one dictionary to the next!

I have shown you some examples of eytomology. No dictionary required.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
It the rule of law versus the capricious rule of men.

What we see now with the weaponized Department of Injustice is exactly the type of "democracy" you fascists yearn for, 51% of the population depriving the other 49% of all rights.

You fascists suffer from this;

Megalomania - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics
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More like 20% of the population depriving the other 80% of all rights (or at least attempting to...you cannot deprive anyone of their rights, even in the most oppressive of nations).
 
Into the Night said:
No. Dictionaries are not eytomology.

Don't need a dictionary for that! No dictionary defines any word. People communicated quite well before there were dictionaries!

Dictionaries server a purpose, but it's not to define any word. They are used to standardize spelling and pronunciation. They also give examples of how a word is used, but it does not define any word. Indeed, these examples even conflict with each other from one dictionary to the next!

I have shown you some examples of eytomology. No dictionary required.
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Way too many examples for something I consider common knowledge.

Your emphasis on trying to make a distinction between oral etymological history and written etymological history is odd to me. But to each his own
 
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