Why Is Communism Still a Respected Ideology?

WitoldPilecki said:
Individualists tend to be very self centered, they also seem to lack empathy, and lack understanding that there's a World out there beyond their own life.
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that's so fucked up man. indiclvidualists also tend to believe in individual agency, and individual responsibility. thinking only in groups leads to innumerable horrors, though groups can be important to, as they contain allied individuals, and foster ingroup cooperation between individuals.

identity politicians hate individualism, all their stereotypes and one size fits all tyranny falls apart.
 
AssHatZombie said:
that's so fucked up man. indiclvidualists also tend to believe in individual agency, and individual responsibility. thinking only in groups leads to innumerable horrors, though groups can be important to, as they contain allied individuals, and foster ingroup cooperation between individuals.

identity politicians hate individualism, all their stereotypes and one size fits all tyranny falls apart.
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I'm not an extreme Collectivist, but definitely lean a bit towards the Collectivist side.

Individual responsibility is kind of absurd, think about all the people stuck because of disabilities, or the elderly stuck because of inflation & lack of ability to work, those are the biggest beneficiers of government benefits, also note that so long as the job market demands minimum wage, there's always going to be a system of steep inequality.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
I'm not an extreme Collectivist, but definitely lean a bit towards the Collectivist side.

Individual responsibility is kind of absurd, think about all the people stuck because of disabilities, or the elderly stuck because of inflation & lack of ability to work, those are the biggest beneficiers of government benefits, also note that so long as the job market demands minimum wage, there's always going to be a system of steep inequality.
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collectivism is just fuzzy thinking. collectives are groups of individuals. the individual will always be there.

ignoring the primacy of the individual reduces us all. reducing us all is the goal of tyrants, tHat's why they push collectivist stupidity. I thought you were smarter than this.
 
AssHatZombie said:
collectivism is just fuzzy thinking. collectives are groups of individuals. the individual will always be there.

ignoring the primacy of the individual reduces us all. reducing us all is the goal of tyrants, tHat's why they push collectivist stupidity. I thought you were smarter than this.
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The needs of others, and of the tribe are more important than the need of the individual.

The move to push LGBTQ rights as just individuals, the move to decay our heritage because a culture is just individuals, the move to accept invader immiigrants as equal individuals, the move to support people to be on their own individually to be without proper government help, and to die from Covid-19 due to "Muh freedoms" are all Individualist ideas.

An extreme example of an Individualist would be to go so far as to accept an invading army destroying your country as just "Individuals" rather than as a collective destroying your collective.

Yes, I'm more of a collectivist, I see results for society as important, I see culture as important, I see helping my fellow man & environment as important.
 
AssHatZombie said:
collectivism is just fuzzy thinking. collectives are groups of individuals. the individual will always be there.

ignoring the primacy of the individual reduces us all. reducing us all is the goal of tyrants, tHat's why they push collectivist stupidity. I thought you were smarter than this.
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Individualist societies are no less violent, Western Europe & the Anglosphere are probably the most violent people going, and they are also the most Individualist.

Just look at all the crimes of Colonialism, and of the World wars & the Holocaust.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
The needs of others, and of the tribe are more important than the need of the individual.

The move to push LGBTQ rights as just individuals, the move to decay our heritage because a culture is just individuals, the move to accept invader immiigrants as equal individuals, the move to support people to be on their own individually to be without proper government help, and to die from Covid-19 due to "Muh freedoms" are all Individualist ideas.

An extreme example of an Individualist would be to go so far as to accept an invading army destroying your country as just "Individuals" rather than as a collective destroying your collective.

Yes, I'm more of a collectivist, I see results for society as important, I see culture as important, I see helping my fellow man & environment as important.
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that's dumb. everyone in the tribe is also an individual.

we do some things as a collective, things in which most individuals have an interest.

your attitude tends toward tragedy, as elitists controlling the collective decide certain individuals don't matter.

you're lost in stupidity right now.
 
AssHatZombie said:
that's dumb. everyone in the tribe is also an individual.

we do some things as a collective, things in which most individuals have an interest.

your attitude tends toward tragedy, as elitists controlling the collective decide certain individuals don't matter.

you're lost in stupidity right now.
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If the collective majority agrees that they wish to keep their society free of Immigrant individuals, and LGBTQ pride individuals that's their choice, no?
I don't really care, so long as no-one is injured, or killed.

I judge people as an extent as Individuals, there are in fact good & bad people, and smart & stupid in all groups.

However, collectively speaking, we fall into groups, and to ignore that causes Multicultural Balkanization through mass immigration, and Balkanization leads to chaos.

Individualism as we speak is the main factor ruining the West, not Collectivism.

Actually, Collectivist societies in general aren't destroying their heritage with Balkanization & Cultural replacements, because they view them as just "Individuals" rather than as tribes.

Furthermore, Individualists don't seem to grasp, that if we bring in say a Mexican collective, we will get more & more like Mexico, or at least the version of the collective coming here.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Individualist societies are no less violent, Western Europe & the Anglosphere are probably the most violent people going, and they are also the most Individualist.

Just look at all the crimes of Colonialism, and of the World wars & the Holocaust.
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it's also harder to genocide us, as we take responsibility for our own defense in many cases. abdicating that responsibility to a central authority means you're a trusting idiotic sheeple. I do believe in having cops.

the worst things done in society are done by centralized powers created in the name of the collective, but hijacked by bad actor tyrants.

individualism is a necessary check on tyranny and subsequent atrocity.
 
AssHatZombie said:
it's also harder to genocide us, as we take responsibility for our own defense in many cases. abdicating that responsibility to a central authority means you're a trusting idiotic sheeple. I do believe in having cops.

the worst things done in society are done by centralized powers created in the name of the collective, but hijacked by bad actor tyrants.

individualism is a necessary check on tyranny and subsequent atrocity.
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The biggest factors involved in gencodie are subservience, lack of morals, and military supremacy.

Plenty of Collectivists haven't gone into genocide, and plenty of Individualists have.
 
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