Why Is Communism Still a Respected Ideology?

WitoldPilecki said:
60 million died of famine, give or take in India by British Capitalists
1 million died of famine, give or take in Ireland by British Capitalists.
.75 million died of famine, give or take in Germany by the British Blockade on Germany during WW1.
4 million give or take died of famine, give or take in Persia, by British Capitalists during WW1.
2 million give or take died of famine, in Vietnam during WW2, from French & Japanese.
.25 million give or take died of famine, in Yemen by USA / Saudi Capitalists.

That's approx 67 million dead by famine under Capitalism.

Communist famines clearly killed less, the Holodomor, Volga Famine + 1946 - 1947 Soviet famine combined killed about 8 million by famine.
Mao's Great Leap Forward probably killed 25 million by famine.
China's Famine of 1942 - 1943 killed 3 million.
North Korea's Famine killed another 1 million.

So, maybe 35 million killed by famine, by Communists.

ONLY if we go by high end famine figures by Mao's Great Leap Forward, do we get 55 million.

But, even at that it would still be not much different than Capitalist famines!
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Well, this depends on the source...

Over the course of three centuries somewhere between 25 and 60 million died in India from famine. That wasn't in whole caused by the British but by drought, poor farming practice, etc. You picked the extreme.
The Irish potato famine of 1845 and in the years immediately afterward weren't caused by the British but by an infestation of insects. The British parliament repealed restrictions on the growing of corn as an alternative but this was ineffective because farmers couldn't switch crops quickly enough.
Germany WW 1 was part of war. Too bad.
Same for the rest of your list. War is hell and you seem to think otherwise.

As for Mao. Most credible historians put his deaths from famine and murder at between 40 and 80 million, although an exact number isn't available. That's probably double what you claim.
North Korea's toll is 1 to 2 million, probably more.
Stalin's toll from 1922 to 1952 is somewhere between 5 and 60 million with the likely number being around 10 million. The purge alone claimed about a million. Then slaughter of various Eastern European country's suspect leadership accounts for about another million plus. Toss in famine like the 1932 and on one that killed about 7 to 8 million after collectivization, the gulag system, persecution of Cossacks, etc., easily 10 million and probably more like 30 million all told.
The Khmer Rouge in Cambodia killed about 2 million. I actually have met someone who lived through that--chilling to hear his recollections of it. He works for the City of Phoenix now as a traffic engineer.
Romania under Nicolae Ceaușescu killed between half and one million
Vietnam post defeat of S. Vietnam killed about another million
The Soviets in Afghanistan killed between 1 and 2 million civilians in mass shootings as retaliation.
China has killed somewhere between 1 and 2 million in Tibet to quell resistance to their occupation
No exact number is known on how many Chinese Muslims have been killed--most grotesquely for organ harvesting

So, the Left wins the dubious distinction of wiping out far more millions than Capitalism ever has. It also has done it for far more immoral and heinous reasons like retaining power than non-Leftist governments ever have.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Well, this depends on the source...

Over the course of three centuries somewhere between 25 and 60 million died in India from famine. That wasn't in whole caused by the British but by drought, poor farming practice, etc. You picked the extreme.
The Irish potato famine of 1845 and in the years immediately afterward weren't caused by the British but by an infestation of insects. The British parliament repealed restrictions on the growing of corn as an alternative but this was ineffective because farmers couldn't switch crops quickly enough.
Germany WW 1 was part of war. Too bad.
Same for the rest of your list. War is hell and you seem to think otherwise.

As for Mao. Most credible historians put his deaths from famine and murder at between 40 and 80 million, although an exact number isn't available. That's probably double what you claim.
North Korea's toll is 1 to 2 million, probably more.
Stalin's toll from 1922 to 1952 is somewhere between 5 and 60 million with the likely number being around 10 million. The purge alone claimed about a million. Then slaughter of various Eastern European country's suspect leadership accounts for about another million plus. Toss in famine like the 1932 and on one that killed about 7 to 8 million after collectivization, the gulag system, persecution of Cossacks, etc., easily 10 million and probably more like 30 million all told.
The Khmer Rouge in Cambodia killed about 2 million. I actually have met someone who lived through that--chilling to hear his recollections of it. He works for the City of Phoenix now as a traffic engineer.
Romania under Nicolae Ceaușescu killed between half and one million
Vietnam post defeat of S. Vietnam killed about another million
The Soviets in Afghanistan killed between 1 and 2 million civilians in mass shootings as retaliation.
China has killed somewhere between 1 and 2 million in Tibet to quell resistance to their occupation
No exact number is known on how many Chinese Muslims have been killed--most grotesquely for organ harvesting

So, the Left wins the dubious distinction of wiping out far more millions than Capitalism ever has. It also has done it for far more immoral and heinous reasons like retaining power than non-Leftist governments ever have.
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You sound very similar to the Soviet apologists, they say the Holodomor was caused by natural sources too.

The British Empire policies in India, and Ireland drove food out by exports, and took the resources out from underneath them. Sound familiar? Because that's what Stalin did in the Holodomor.

The fact is India had 24 major famines during British occupation, and 0 since British occupation.

By the way, I didn't talk about all deaths, ONLY deaths by famine.

The British Empire & USA Empire have killed so many in wars all over the World!

Since World War 2, the USA may have killed 14 - 20 milion by war according to Norwegian professor Galthung.

The Brits caused the extinction, or near extinction of many Native American tribes, and also the Tasmanian Aborigines.

WW1 was also caused largely by Capitalist powers, about 15 - 25 million died there.

Individualists are more aggressive & lack restraint according to studies, not hard to see that with Western Europeans destroying almost everything in their path!
 
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StoneByStone said:
First of all, government-run healthcare isn't Socialism. Socialism is collective ownership over the means of production.
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^This is why you cannot argue with low IQ, uneducated, lying morons on the left. Taking over the PRIVATE healthcare system of this nation most certainly meets the definition dumbass. Run along; I grow weary of your boorish stupidity.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Stalin actually made a better Republican than Trump,
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^This is why leftists are the biggest morons on the planet. Any questions? :palm:

Yeah dumbfuck; Stalin murdered over a million of his own citizens. Trump ZERO.

Stalin was the cause of a great famine in the early 1930s, which may have taken six to eight million lives. Trump ZERO.

Stalin's cozying up to the Nazi's in WWII cost his nation 25 million deaths. Trump ZERO.

You are a fucking retard on steroids. But then, you are also the poster child of the Democratic Party of the Jackass constituency. ;)
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Capitalism is only slightly better than Communism for wealth, but Capitalism is much worse for Immigration, Multiculturalism, Outsourcing, etc. etc.
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STFU you low IQ, mentally unstable retard on steroids. You won't find a single fact to support your moronic bloviations. :palm:
 
WitoldPilecki said:
60 million died of famine, give or take in India by British Capitalists
1 million died of famine, give or take in Ireland by British Capitalists.
.75 million died of famine, give or take in Germany by the British Blockade on Germany during WW1.
4 million give or take died of famine, give or take in Persia, by British Capitalists during WW1.
2 million give or take died of famine, in Vietnam during WW2, from French & Japanese.
.25 million give or take died of famine, in Yemen by USA / Saudi Capitalists.

That's approx 67 million dead by famine under Capitalism.

Communist famines clearly killed less, the Holodomor, Volga Famine + 1946 - 1947 Soviet famine combined killed about 8 million by famine.
Mao's Great Leap Forward probably killed 25 million by famine.
China's Famine of 1942 - 1943 killed 3 million.
North Korea's Famine killed another 1 million.

So, maybe 35 million killed by famine, by Communists.

ONLY if we go by high end famine figures by Mao's Great Leap Forward, do we get 55 million.

But, even at that it would still be not much different than Capitalist famines!
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^Thinks Communism is great. :palm:
:legion:
 
archives said:
The Commies are coming, the Commies are coming
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Absurdity; a sure sign of the last desperate refuge for liars, fools and ignorance; and those who have lost their arguments.

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Truth Detector said:
^Thinks Communism is great. :palm:
:legion:
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I don't like the idea of Communists taking what I've got.

I also don't like the idea of Capitalists flooding the market with foreigners.

I support hybrid Socialism, I believe the Capitalists who have hired foreigners, must be held accountable, and that we should trust bust mega Corporations who behave like Communists, the same arguments against Communist monopolies can be used against Corporate monopolies, the Corporations cut corners, create junk, jack up prices, hire foreigners, how is that much better, if at all better?

I think Amazon, McDonald's & Walmart should be put on trail for damaging America.

It's never been about national interest, but rather about profit margins.
 
Truth Detector said:
WRONG and STUPID. You meant to type Fascism. Dumbass. :palm:
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Communism doesn't have a track record of outsourcing, of importing foreign products, of importing foreigner workers, like Capitalism does.

Communism is indeed more compitable with Nationalism than the Capitalists, by a long shot.

Capitalism doesn't care about national interest, but about profit margins.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
I don't like the idea of Communists taking what I've got.

I also don't like the idea of Capitalists flooding the market with foreigners.

I support hybrid Socialism, I believe the Capitalists who have hired foreigners, must be held accountable, and that we should trust bust mega Corporations who behave like Communists, the same arguments against Communist monopolies can be used against Corporate monopolies, the Corporations cut corners, create junk, jack up prices, hire foreigners, how is that much better, if at all better?

I think Amazon, McDonald's & Walmart should be put on trail for damaging America.

It's never been about national interest, but rather about profit margins.
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Translation: this whacked out LOON likes Fascism. Are you a member of the KKK? :palm:
 
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