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I've got the Montgomery Transit Authority on Line 1, wanting to know if you support him against the boycott.
Why isn't Trump getting Dixie Chicked?
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I've got the Montgomery Transit Authority on Line 1, wanting to know if you support him against the boycott.
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I've spoken about boycotts many times on this board. The only boycotts I really support are ones where a company is engaging in an actual practice that protestors want to change. The best example I can think of is trying to get a tuna company to switch to dolphin-free nets.
But boycotting the tuna company because the CEO has a political opinion you don't agree with? A much different animal, imo. I think boycotting under that circumstance is sad and un-American in spirit.
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Again... it is FREEDOM OF SPEECH. NOTHING was stopping the Ditzie Chicks from speaking out again or on other forums that agreed with them. The radio stations had a choice and also had the freedom to choose what to do in response.
The ditzie chicks didn't just go silent. Liberal news outlets gave them plenty of opportunity to discuss what happened. They kept playing music to those that wanted to listen to them.
You just want to PRETEND they were 'silenced' when in reality, some people and stations simply chose to not listen to them anymore. As is their FREEDOM to do so.
More bullshit.
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yes... for the SITTING PRESIDENT. That is what the ditzie chicks were railed for. You can pretend the two cases are the same, but they aren't... not even close. You ignore the timing of the comments and the fact that one was towards a sitting President and the other against a former President. That is a big difference.
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Sure thing. Which is exactly why "Dixie Chicked" is now a well-known expression for intimidation & chilling free speech.
Keep your head in the sand.
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How can you ignore the blatant hypocrisy?
No one is accountable anymore. In 2003, people like me were kryptonite. We were on the wrong side of history, and traitors to our country. Oh - now it turns out we were right about everything, so every conservative has amnesia and many of them are even supporting an anti-war guy for President.
Frankly, I don't know why people even listen to pundits like Hannity & Ingraham anymore. How do they justify their support of Trump with how vehement they were in favor of the war in '03? How can you be SO wrong on a call like that, and still call your opinion on anything credible?
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LMAO... you poor thing. You are the one repeating nonsense over and over again with your head shoved up your ass.
It is simply the left wing nonsense PRETENDING their speech was 'chilled'. It is YOUR EXCUSE to rail against other peoples FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
AGAIN... are you claiming the ditzie chicks never were allowed to talk via the media again after 2003? (at least in the immediate aftermath?)
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No one is pretending anything. If you don't think that chilled free speech, I don't know what to tell you. It is 100% fact that it chilled speech - it's not speculation.
Please. That's pure ignorance, SF.
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You're confusing "chilled" with "taking away the right."
No one is suggesting or saying that the Chicks or anyone else didn't have the "right" to speak after that. But many were definitely afraid to. That is being "chilled."
No one is suggesting or saying that the Chicks or anyone else didn't have the "right" to speak after that. But many were definitely afraid to. That is being "chilled."
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Again you fucking moron... Saying it in 2003 prior to the war starting, so soon after 9/11, against a sitting President is NOT the fucking same as a guy running for President for the same party criticizing a FORMER President who hasn't been in office for 7+ years. It isn't even fucking close to being the same. There is therefore NO hypocrisy.
Ahh... here we go... the standard left wing bullshit. When proven wrong start shouting about conservative talk radio people. Hilarious.
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Odd... because you also said silenced. Are you spinning away from that now?
They also weren't 'afraid to'... they were all over the news after that, speaking about it. Again, the left wants to use the word 'chilled'... when in reality it means they realized that free speech works both ways and it doesn't mean you are free to say whatever you want without consequence. Because OTHER people ALSO have the RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH.
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Oh, bull again. Nothing has changed for me since 2003. I feel the same way about the war now that I did then. The only difference is that then, the right told me to shut up. Now, their frontrunner is saying the same things I was.
I'm glad all of you had a huge epiphany after calling the left traitors & terrorist sympathizers all those years. Really, it's all water under the bridge, because so much 'time has passed.'
No accountability. Typical rightie.
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I stand by silenced, 100%. You can definitely be silenced through intimidation and fear. Would you really disagree with that?
You don't seem to understand the meaning of words, SF.
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You are full of ignorance, that is to be certain. You pretend that other people voicing THEIR free speech hurt the feelz of the Ditzie Chicks so much that they were just too afraid to talk anymore.
http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=131980
http://www.salon.com/2003/04/28/chicks_sawyer/
A couple of instances of the Ditzie chicks being scared of speaking again... roflmao
They sure look intimidated all right.
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I swear, it's like you weren't even alive then. For starters, it definitely had a chilling effect on many others in the entertainment industry. Beyond that, I have seen the Chicks interviewed often about the death threats & boycotts, and how intimidating those were. The fact that they're courageous women doesn't change any of what I've said.
You truly are ignorant when it comes to that whole period of time. I'm amazed at how much you either missed, or don't seem to comprehend.
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Someone can be. But the ditzie chicks were not. You may understand definitions, but you clearly do not comprehend the situation. AT ALL.
They were not silenced. They definitely were not intimidated. They were actually aggressive against their detractors... which again... they had a right to do. You just want to pretend they were some poor little victim. Is that because they are women?
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LOL - that EW cover story is perfect.
Read the lyrics to "Not Ready to Make Nice," SF. Then let me know how you think all of that hate from the right was perceived in terms of free speech.
Read the lyrics to "Not Ready to Make Nice," SF. Then let me know how you think all of that hate from the right was perceived in terms of free speech.
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Truly comical and ironic. I just showed you that they weren't intimidated and in fact were actually right back in the face of their detractors... and NOW you start to spin this into 'well it scared OTHER people'
In other words... people realized they were not free from other people reacting to their comments... that they had to take responsibility for what they said and did... just like the Dixie Chicks DID.
LMFAO. Thing doesn't think people should respond to dissent. Does he say the same thing when liberals call for boycotts of conservatives?
They had several interviews about it and made a hit song about the event. Yeah, their speech was chilled to the tune of millions of dollars from the song that spoke out directly about the incident.
LOL.
They had several interviews about it and made a hit song about the event. Yeah, their speech was chilled to the tune of millions of dollars from the song that spoke out directly about the incident.
LOL.
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Now, you're moving the goalpost. Because you're losing.
My argument is that the kind of organized boycotts & intimidation that we saw directed against the Chicks had a chilling effect on free speech, and was meant only to close down opinions that those who engaged in them disagreed with. And that's all it was for. It wasn't to offer a counter-opinion, or add to the marketplace of ideas.
It was to intimidate & shut people up. To have a chilling effect on free speech. As I said in the beginning, to deny that is foolish. It's fact.