Why Most Republicans Don’t Like Higher Education

iolo said:
If you want to discuss anything, stop making lists and talking nonsense. You come over as a drunken maths teacher.
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Bulverism fallacy. I have not presented any math. I have not presented any lists (at least anything more than you have). That you discard my arguments in this way is bulverism...a fallacy.
 
iolo said:
No - just as there are no Christian countries but many whose capitalists find it convenient to pretend to be that thing, so some claim 'communism'. You have been kept very carefully brainwashed by your masters, haven't you! Oh dearie me! Poor dab!
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The United States is a Christian country. So is the UK. So is France. So is Spain. So is Canada. So is Mexico. I can think of a lot of others. All of these nations are predominantly Christian, and many were founded by Christians. The United States is a capitalist country also. It is the primary form of economy in the United States.

Japan happens to be primarily Buddhist and Shinto. Yet they are a capitalist country. That is the primary form of economy in Japan.

You are still making a false dichotomy fallacy, combined with a compositional error fallacy. Now you add a strawman to that. There is no 'brainwashing' here. I choose what I buy, when I buy it, what work I do, and how I conduct my business. You have that same choice, though you deny it.
 
Into the Night said:
The United States is a Christian country. So is the UK. So is France. So is Spain. So is Canada. So is Mexico. I can think of a lot of others. All of these nations are predominantly Christian, and many were founded by Christians. The United States is a capitalist country also. It is the primary form of economy in the United States.

Japan happens to be primarily Buddhist and Shinto. Yet they are a capitalist country. That is the primary form of economy in Japan.

You are still making a false dichotomy fallacy, combined with a compositional error fallacy. Now you add a strawman to that. There is no 'brainwashing' here. I choose what I buy, when I buy it, what work I do, and how I conduct my business. You have that same choice, though you deny it.
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I ditto this sharp response.
 
iolo said:
State ownership is the brainwashed American's idea of socialism; actually, it is control by those who do the work.
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That is the economic definition of socialism. Control by those who do the work and abolishing the state is anarcho-communism.
 
guno said:
Especially the trump variety



Let’s start with the good news. In a national survey released last week by the Pew Research Center, a solid majority of Americans, 55 percent, have positive views of higher education.

But that finding camouflages a worrisome partisan split: The poll noted that while 72 percent of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents said higher education had a positive impact on the nation, 58 percent of Republican and Republican-leaning independents said it had a negative effect. Just 36 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents said colleges and universities had a positive effect.

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Even more troubling is that Republican support has cratered in two years, from 54 percent favorable in 2015 to 36 percent favorable today. There is no way to sugarcoat these findings for an industry that depends on widespread, deep public support to be effective. We ignore them at our peril.


https://www.chronicle.com/article/Why-Most-Republicans-Don-t/240691
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I think higher education teaches students a lot of fluff they should have learned in high school. We need higher education to be more directly job-related.
 
Education opens the mind, the republican wants the people dumb so they control them. Give the uneducated a target and blame them for all ills and you win. Scapegoating is as old as history. The republicans have been creating snowflakes for years and now the snowflakes see in a con-artist their messiah. It is ironic on its face as Trump cares nada for the working class, he proved that with his labor record of not even paying his workers in NY. America's dummies are a creation of dark money and agitprop. For the reader.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2751831-invisible-hands
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27833494-dark-money
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28695425-strangers-in-their-own-land
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25437695-the-view-from-flyover-country
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33670561-the-destruction-of-hillary-clinton
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30724304-the-making-of-donald-trump
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7799004-merchants-of-doubt


"What is patriotism? Let us begin with what patriotism is not. It is not patriotic to dodge the draft and to mock war heroes and their families. It is not patriotic to discriminate against active-duty members of the armed forces in one's companies, or to campaign to keep disabled veterans away from one's property. It is not patriotic to compare one's search for sexual partners in New York with the military service in Vietnam that one has dodged. It is not patriotic to avoid paying taxes, especially when American working families do pay. It is not patriotic to ask those working, taxpaying American families to finance one's own presidential campaign, and then to spend their contributions in one's own companies. It is not patriotic to admire foreign dictators. It is not patriotic to cultivate a relationship with Muammar Gaddafi; or to say that Bashar al-Assad and Vladimir Putin are superior leaders. It is not patriotic to call upon Russia to intervene in an American presidential election. It is not patriotic to cite Russian propaganda at rallies." Timothy Snyder

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33917107-on-tyranny

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Into the Night said:
There is no such thing as 'capitalist control'.
We are free to change the system. We choose a federated republic for our system. We choose capitalism.

If you like socialism and Marxism so much, go move to such a country. You'll be happier there, at least until you realize what you've lost by living there.
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You cannot change capitalism where you are, and there is nowhere else to go. Try the Moon, nutter.
 
Into the Night said:
Bulverism fallacy. I have not presented any math. I have not presented any lists (at least anything more than you have). That you discard my arguments in this way is bulverism...a fallacy.
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You make lists of quotations. Don't. Write like a human being, if you know how.
 
Into the Night said:
The United States is a Christian country. So is the UK. So is France. So is Spain. So is Canada. So is Mexico. I can think of a lot of others. All of these nations are predominantly Christian, and many were founded by Christians. The United States is a capitalist country also. It is the primary form of economy in the United States.

Japan happens to be primarily Buddhist and Shinto. Yet they are a capitalist country. That is the primary form of economy in Japan.

You are still making a false dichotomy fallacy, combined with a compositional error fallacy. Now you add a strawman to that. There is no 'brainwashing' here. I choose what I buy, when I buy it, what work I do, and how I conduct my business. You have that same choice, though you deny it.
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Ever been allowed to read the Sermon on the Mount? If so, name ONE action of the United States Government compatible with it.
 
iolo said:
Ever been allowed to read the Sermon on the Mount? If so, name ONE action of the United States Government compatible with it.
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The 1st amendment. The laws against perjury. The marriage and divorce laws. Laws against murder and assault. Shall I go on?
 
guno said:
Anti-intellectualism Is Killing America
Social dysfunction can be traced to the abandonment of reason

America is killing itself through its embrace and exaltation of ignorance, and the evidence is all around us. Dylann Roof, the Charleston shooter who used race as a basis for hate and mass murder, is just the latest horrific example. Many will correctly blame Roof's actions on America's culture of racism and gun violence, but it's time to realize that such phenomena are directly tied to the nation's culture of ignorance.

In a country where a sitting congressman told a crowd that evolution and the Big Bang are “lies straight from the pit of hell,” where the chairman of a Senate environmental panel brought a snowball into the chamber as evidence that climate change is a hoax, where almost one in three citizens can’t name the vice president, it is beyond dispute that critical thinking has been abandoned as a cultural value. Our failure as a society to connect the dots, to see that such anti-intellectualism comes with a huge price, could eventually be our downfall.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...01506/anti-intellectualism-is-killing-america
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What a shame....
 
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