Why the Electoral College?

Nordberg said:
Damn that was stupid. Blacks can vote for anyone they want. Some of them are as stupid as many rightys and voted for Trump. Oh, they are not slaves. That ended with the Emancipation Proclamation. Is there any thinking before you post?
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why do demmycrats claim they own the black vote?.....
 
Who should have the say so in family disputes?

When a family asks themselves "Where do we want to go on our family vacation this year" and the 4 children say, "Let's go to Disneyland" and the Mother says, "Let's go where the children want to go" and the Father says, "I want to go to Las Vegas, where I can drink, gamble and look at all the pretty showgirls, as I am the breadwinner here, and what I say goes"! What do you do?

Well, if you want to take away, the children's and women's rights to have their way, you will certainly not go with the popular vote.

Did I make myself clear, or do you still need a better example or analogy of how to suppress the popular vote?
 
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The electoral college is part of our federal system.
The states choose the president provided that they can arrive at a majority.
If not, the House of Representatives chooses the president.
That's our system.
I'm not opining as to whether it's good or bad, but change it and we're a different country.

The system was designed to be almost but not quite a population apportioned one.
The pure population ratio is deliberately modified by the two senate votes that each state gets regardless of size.
This allows the smaller states to retain at least a measure of influence.

The problem that we have now is that the 438 non-senate electoral vote number which is supposed to be apportioned by population
is really messed up. For example, California has 53 non-senate electoral votes plus the two that each state gets.
California, if the votes were apportioned fairly, would have over 90 of the present total number of electoral votes.

The shit kicker Red States have more votes than they're entitled to have.
America is a sadly socially regressive nation because flyover state troglodytes have more power that that to which they're entitled.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
The electoral college is part of our federal system.
The states choose the president provided that they can arrive at a majority.
If not, the House of Representatives chooses the president.
That's our system.
I'm not opining as to whether it's good or bad, but change it and we're a different country.

The system was designed to be almost but not quite a population apportioned one.
The pure population ratio is deliberately modified by the two senate votes that each state gets regardless of size.
This allows the smaller states to retain at least a measure of influence.

The problem that we have now is that the 438 non-senate electoral vote number which is supposed to be apportioned by population
is really messed up. For example, California has 53 non-senate electoral votes plus the two that each state gets.
California, if the votes were apportioned fairly, would have over 90 of the present total number of electoral votes.

The shit kicker Red States have more votes than they're entitled to have.
America is a sadly socially regressive nation because flyover state troglodytes have more power that that to which they're entitled.
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Congrats, you're dumber than Nordberg.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
very clear.....demmycrats are dad and the constitution is Disneyland
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Do you know how to tell that someone is a Trump Supporter?

Well, the first tip off is- anytime you point out a clear and distinct negative attribute of the Trump Supporter's mentality, a Donald Trump and his mob of Trump Supporters will immediately and without question turn it around and make that same accusation about Donald Trump's opposition.

It's like lying for lying's sake. Trump and his supporters are proving to our children that lying will get you the win, so lie away!
 
Adolf_Twitler said:
Do you know how to tell that someone is a Trump Supporter?

Well, the first tip off is- anytime you point out a clear and distinct negative attribute of the Trump Supporter's mentality, a Donald Trump and his mob of Trump Supporters will immediately and without question turn it around and make that same accusation about Donald Trump's opposition.

It's like lying for lying's sake. Trump and his supporters are proving to our children that lying will get you the win, so lie away!
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unless they're correct.
 
Adolf_Twitler said:
Your holy royal highness, would you like to tell us who is correct, from your lofty little politically biased perch?


Oh, I bet you would! Do tell!

Fucking hilarious!
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To get that high I'd have to take some lessons from you. I love how you assign attributes to Trump supporters and then comment not on who they are but on who you say they are. Excellent job. btw, get tested retard.
 
Guille said:
To get that high I'd have to take some lessons from you. I love how you assign attributes to Trump supporters and then comment not on who they are but on who you say they are. Excellent job. btw, get tested retard.
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Sorry dude, I just don't give a fuck who the Trump supporters are anymore. Furthermore, I don't give a fuck what they have to say anymore either.

All I want to see is that Bad Behavior no longer get's rewarded anymore.

That is what matters most to me now!
 
Evmetro said:
The article that I have linked below has a lot of good information for those who like to debate the validity of the EC.

"The Electoral College was created for two reasons. The first purpose was to create a buffer between population and the selection of a President. The second as part of the structure of the government that gave extra power to the smaller states.

The first reason that the founders created the Electoral College is hard to understand today." ... Read more below:

https://www.historycentral.com/elections/Electoralcollgewhy.html
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The electoral college process was another example of the genius our founders had. It is another example of why we are the greatest nation on earth and of human Governance ever invented by man. It's a shame our liberal educational establishment fails our citizens and doesn't educate them of the reasons why.
 
Truth Detector said:
The electoral college process was another example of the genius our founders had. It is another example of why we are the greatest nation on earth and of human Governance ever invented by man. It's a shame our liberal educational establishment fails our citizens and doesn't educate them of the reasons why.
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Exactly. They want mob rule. The rule of law is a bad thing to them.
 
Fentoine Lum said:
It's actually very easy to understand, to cockblock the unsubstantial people from political representation.
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^This is your brain on MORON; don't be one.

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NiftyNiblick said:
The electoral college is part of our federal system.
The states choose the president provided that they can arrive at a majority.
If not, the House of Representatives chooses the president.
That's our system.
I'm not opining as to whether it's good or bad, but change it and we're a different country.

The system was designed to be almost but not quite a population apportioned one.
The pure population ratio is deliberately modified by the two senate votes that each state gets regardless of size.
This allows the smaller states to retain at least a measure of influence.

The problem that we have now is that the 438 non-senate electoral vote number which is supposed to be apportioned by population
is really messed up. For example, California has 53 non-senate electoral votes plus the two that each state gets.
California, if the votes were apportioned fairly, would have over 90 of the present total number of electoral votes.

The shit kicker Red States have more votes than they're entitled to have.
America is a sadly socially regressive nation because flyover state troglodytes have more power that that to which they're entitled.
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GuilleX said:
There you go again.

You call the EC an abomination against one man-one vote. I quote you and highlight that specific sentence. You then give a bunch of shit that has nothing to do with the sentence I highlighted. I attempt to get you back on track and once again you throw shit out there that has nothing to do with the highlighted sentence.
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Tell ya what...

...offer a link to me ever saying "one man-one vote" ANYWHERE...and I will offer you an apology.

If you cannot do it...AND YOU CANNOT, BECAUSE I HAVE NOT EVER SAID THAT...I will merely call your attention to the fact that you do not have the ethical wherewithal to acknowledge you are wrong and you also are unwilling to apologize for being wrong.


I didn't accuse you of wanting to get rid of the EC.
You are not interested in changing the "skewing", you're just interested in skewing it in a way you think might benefit those you agree with.
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No...I am not. In fact, I specifically say that the way I want it reformed WILL NOT DO THAT...but will merely make the skewing in the direction of low population states less pronounced.

Get your facts right...before all that phony indignation.



You may not be demanding direct elections for President but you are without a doubt lamenting the fact we don't have them. Refer back to the sentence I highlighted.
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I am doing no such fucking thing.

In fact, I will go on record as saying that direct election would be a piss poor idea.

DIRECT ELECTION WOULD BE A PISS POOR IDEA.

I am, however, interested in reforming things so that the skewing toward low population states is not so severe as it is right now. Why don't you read and discuss what I actually write...rather than what you invent...you asshole.

You keep putting forth arguments on behalf of other people that were not made by those people and then arguing against those arguments instead of dealing with what other people actually post. If you think those arguments are idiotic then who do you have to blame for that Frank? You.
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You are an idiot who constantly builds strawmen and then argues against what you have invented.

Grow up...then participate.

I'm tired too. I'm tired of talking to people, online and IRL, who think they can talk about an issue because they read an article about it on HuffPo.
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You are a fucking moron...in way over your head.

That is what you are.
 
Teflon Don said:
Look bro, democrats play under the same rules as the republicans do

The Electoral College was put in place precisely to keep small states from being steam rolled by larger states and thank God the Founders had the forethought to do so. Here is a thought, instead of hating on the game, maybe your party should ask it self why it doesn't appeal to some of these smaller states?

And it isn't like democrats don't benefit from small states who are blue

Rhode Island?
Delaware?
New Hampshire?
Vermont?

Spare me your faux indignation. Your side only complains about the Electoral College when you lose. Stop losing
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What I said is correct...whether you have the spine to acknowledge that or not.

I repeat:

Every liberal ever elected President...was elected IN SPITE OF the huge advantage the Electoral College gives to conservatives...by giving so much extra weight to the votes of small population states. Every liberal ever elected President...was elected IN SPITE OF the huge disadvantage he worked against by the Electoral College.
 
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