Your president will select a supreme count judge on one issue.

Nordberg said:
I would now. I would not have approved before the Repubs stole Obamas pick. Now fuck them, the rules are gone. They let the court with 8 judges for a damn year. If Hillary won, the seat would still be empty.
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Hypocrite Schumer: Blocking Supreme Court Nominees OK In 2007
 
Nordberg said:
I would now. I would not have approved before the Repubs stole Obamas pick. Now fuck them, the rules are gone. They let the court with 8 judges for a damn year. If Hillary won, the seat would still be empty.
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Hypocrite Harry Reid: Blocking Supreme Court Nominees OK In 2005
 
Ralph said:
Only a snowflake would equate a loyal constitutionalist as a radical righty. The true Litmus Test will come from the left when they attempt to character assassinate anyone that does not agree with their ideology of DEATH and IMMORALILTY. Can any posts such as this one actually come from an American Citizen? Me thinks there is a fascist in the woodpile attempting to divide and conquer. Again they do not comprehend the ability of the American Peoples...of all races and all creeds to come together when the real shit hits the fan.
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Nah, the america public is fine with for profit black sites in america for children.

A major U.S. defense contractor quietly detained dozens of immigrant children inside a vacant Phoenix office building with dark windows, no kitchen and only a few toilets during three weeks of the Trump administration’s family separation effort, Reveal from The Center for Investigative Reporting has learned.

Videos shot by an alarmed neighbor show children dressed in sweatsuits being led – one so young she was carried – into the 3,200-square-foot building in early June. The building is not licensed by Arizona to hold children, and the contractor, MVM Inc., has claimed publicly that it does not operate “shelters or any other type of housing” for children.

Defending the administration’s policy to separate families at the border in a May interview with NPR, White House chief of staff John Kelly promised: “The children will be taken care of – put into foster care or whatever.”

Whether or not these children were taken from their parents, that “whatever” for them was the vacant building tucked away in a midtown Phoenix neighborhood. It is not listed among shelters operating through the federal Office of Refugee Resettlement or on the state child care licensing website.
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The building was leased in March by MVM, a Virginia-based defense contractor that has received contracts worth up to $248 million to transport immigrant children since 2014, records show. The company, which once provided guards for CIA facilities in Iraq, was founded by three former Secret Service agents. One of its vice presidents is a former CIA special agent and former acting director of the U.S. Marshals Service.
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Defense contractor detained migrant kids in vacant Phoenix office building
https://www.revealnews.org/article/...grant-kids-in-vacant-phoenix-office-building/
 
Flash said:
That is what both sides say. Republicans increased the filibusters because the Democrats had done so previously. Republicans imposed the nuclear option because the Democrats had done so previously. They justify their actions because the other party did it "first" or "worse."

The Republicans could have just voted on Garland and defeated his nomination. Would that still be "stealing" it?
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It would be honoring the system. McConnell trashed it. Nobody stole a president Supreme Court seat before.
 
And Trump did what was predicted. it is less about Roe and more about protecting the president. Wionder who the president is? Boy, if he had some legal problems you would think he is trying to thwart justice. Kavanaugh thinks the president should be exempt from the laws and justice while in office. He was in the Starr Comm. fiasco.
 
Nordberg said:
It would be honoring the system. McConnell trashed it. Nobody stole a president Supreme Court seat before.
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Reid didn't also trash it? Republicans could not have confirmed Gorsuch or (probably) Kavanaugh without the nuclear option.

Honoring the system would have been a waste of time and money since everyone knew he would not win confirmation.
 
Trump very clearly decided his nominee on one single issue--he wanted someone who was dead set opposed to the Rule Against Perpetuities. Now Trump can declare himself and his progeny emperors for life.
 
Nordberg said:
So a midterm is now not an election? I did not know that.

Is it the voice of the people, or do we only count votes during presidential elections? Were you aware that in Nov. the people will be voting, and their votes will count. That will be called the voicelof the people. Maybe the McConnell rule only applies in elections that Trump runs in. If he is not in jail 2020, then it will vount. After that, throw it out again.
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So you're equating a mid term election to that of a Presidential election, all for the purpose of "payback"!! :good4u:

:facepalm:
 
Flash said:
Reid didn't also trash it? Republicans could not have confirmed Gorsuch or (probably) Kavanaugh without the nuclear option.

Honoring the system would have been a waste of time and money since everyone knew he would not win confirmation.
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Mcconnell changed the vote on the senate from 2/3rds on Supremes to 51.
 
Nordberg said:
Mcconnell changed the vote on the senate from 2/3rds on Supremes to 51.
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You mean from 3/5 (60) to end a filibuster to a majority. That was after Reid first changed it for judicial nominees and executive branch appointments. Democrats initiated the procedure giving Republicans an excuse to do it also. Democrats justified it at the time as getting Obama's nominees confirmed because of obstructionist Republicans. Now that the Democrats are being obstructionists and Republicans are using the same tactic to approve nominees, Democrats become morally outraged. Hypocrisy by both sides. Americans dislike using political power so they have to pretend it is a moral issue when they do so.

The filibuster is probably an outdated procedure which was made worse because members do not actually have to occupy the floor to delay an action but simply have to register an objection. That means any member can block an action on any bill with no effort. For those that complain the Senate is not democratic because it does not represent population the filibuster makes it even less democratic by requiring 60 votes.

"Senate Democrats took the dramatic step Thursday of eliminating filibusters for most nominations by presidents, a power play they said was necessary to fix a broken system but one that Republicans said will only rupture it further.

Democrats used a rare parliamentary move to change the rules so that federal judicial nominees and executive-office appointments can advance to confirmation votes by a simple majority of senators, rather than the 60-vote supermajority that has been the standard for nearly four decades.

The immediate rationale for the move was to allow the confirmation of three picks by President Obama to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit — the most recent examples of what Democrats have long considered unreasonably partisan obstruction by Republicans."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d2ca728e67c_story.html?utm_term=.4d45bb4390f5
 
Flash said:
You mean from 3/5 (60) to end a filibuster to a majority. That was after Reid first changed it for judicial nominees and executive branch appointments. Democrats initiated the procedure giving Republicans an excuse to do it also. Democrats justified it at the time as getting Obama's nominees confirmed because of obstructionist Republicans. Now that the Democrats are being obstructionists and Republicans are using the same tactic to approve nominees, Democrats become morally outraged. Hypocrisy by both sides. Americans dislike using political power so they have to pretend it is a moral issue when they do so.

The filibuster is probably an outdated procedure which was made worse because members do not actually have to occupy the floor to delay an action but simply have to register an objection. That means any member can block an action on any bill with no effort. For those that complain the Senate is not democratic because it does not represent population the filibuster makes it even less democratic by requiring 60 votes.

"Senate Democrats took the dramatic step Thursday of eliminating filibusters for most nominations by presidents, a power play they said was necessary to fix a broken system but one that Republicans said will only rupture it further.

Democrats used a rare parliamentary move to change the rules so that federal judicial nominees and executive-office appointments can advance to confirmation votes by a simple majority of senators, rather than the 60-vote supermajority that has been the standard for nearly four decades.

The immediate rationale for the move was to allow the confirmation of three picks by President Obama to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit — the most recent examples of what Democrats have long considered unreasonably partisan obstruction by Republicans."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d2ca728e67c_story.html?utm_term=.4d45bb4390f5
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Dems were acting to end the Republicans filibustering or pigeonholing Obama's court appointments. Many,many seats sat vacant. Justice delayed can be justice denied.
 
Nordberg said:
It would be honoring the system. McConnell trashed it. Nobody stole a president Supreme Court seat before.
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Wrong; the Democrats trashed it and NO ONE stole anything. That is a moronic liberal talking point lacking a factual basis; as most liberal talking points do.
 
Flash said:
Reid didn't also trash it? Republicans could not have confirmed Gorsuch or (probably) Kavanaugh without the nuclear option.

Honoring the system would have been a waste of time and money since everyone knew he would not win confirmation.
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Reid and Schumer:

Hypocrite Schumer: Blocking Supreme Court Nominees OK In 2007
 
Truth Detector said:
Wrong; the Democrats trashed it and NO ONE stole anything. That is a moronic liberal talking point lacking a factual basis; as most liberal talking points do.
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The Biden Rule is just another right wing conspiracy. Biden did not demand that during a presidential election year there should be no SCOTUS appointments. Its just an illusion. Have you ever noticed how the left attempts to turn their fascists edicts around and blame the opposition for their lack of expecting future events to bite them on the proverbial ass?

Now they are attempting to EVOLVE their mistake to include midterm elections? When the POTUS has 2 years remaining in his current service to the PEOPLE? Really? No...of course not....this could not possibly come back to bite them on their own ass again.....it could never happen.
 
Nordberg said:
Dems were acting to end the Republicans filibustering or pigeonholing Obama's court appointments. Many,many seats sat vacant. Justice delayed can be justice denied.
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But you're okay with Democratic obstruction and filibustering, right hypocrite? Delaying justice makes perfect sense now, right hypocrite? STFU

Hypocrite Harry Reid: Blocking Supreme Court Nominees OK In 2005
 
Ralph said:
The Biden Rule is just another right wing conspiracy. Biden did not demand that during a presidential election years there should be no SCOTUS appointments. Its just an illusion. Have you ever noticed how the left attempts to turn their fascists edicts around and blame the opposition for their lack of expecting future events to bite them on the proverbial ass?
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Irony. The hypocrites can't remember their talking points from last night. :rofl2:
 
Nordberg said:
Dems were acting to end the Republicans filibustering or pigeonholing Obama's court appointments. Many,many seats sat vacant. Justice delayed can be justice denied.
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Right. That is what I said. They used the nuclear option to stop the Republican filibusters. Republicans threatened to use the nuclear option to stop Democrats from blocking Bush nominees. They both attempted to end filibusters to confirm nominees.

See the Reid video in post #118 where he says the Senate is under no obligation to vote on a Supreme Court nominee-what you called "stealing" the seat. Again, you keep trying to give Democrats the moral high ground when both parties did the same thing. When a party wins people want them to use their political power to their advantage, but we don't want to admit it and try to make it a moral issue.
 
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