386,422 new voters registered without a photo ID in a single week (03/16/2024)

Poor Richard Saunders said:
You are telling me it isn't a necessity since you can't tell us it was required at all by you last week or even last month.
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It is a necessity... Do you know where your driver's license is? I'm asked for it quite often as a matter of fact... My bank is responsible ...perhaps yours isn't...;) I think you're the only person here who is never asked to show I.D. Anywhere....:laugh:
 
TOP said:
It is a necessity... Do you know where your driver's license is? I'm asked for it quite often as a matter of fact... My bank is responsible ...perhaps yours isn't...;) I think you're the only person here who is never asked to show I.D. Anywhere....:laugh:
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I would love to know the backstory, TOP, behind your mistrusting non-photogenic people.
Some of us unfortunately evolve into that situation.

I may have mentioned, my college ID photo looks really great;
more recent shots? Not so much.
 
Into the Night said:
You need photo ID to deposit a check, since you need it to open the account in the first place, Sock. Quite a few merchants will require photo ID if you pay by check. Most hotels and motels require photo ID to check in. Most businesses of any size have employee badges that are photo ID. Cruise ships require photo ID to board (or reboard after an excursion ashore). Casinos and bars may require photo ID to collect winnings or even to buy a drink. Photo ID is required in many jurisdictions to register to vote or to vote. A photo ID is used for driver's licenses. To board a commercial aircraft, you are required to present photo ID.
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Thanks for your input, Luddite.

On line deposits don't require a photo ID.
I guess the sleazy hotels you stay in might require ID. The hotels I stay in require a credit card which doesn't have a photo.
Employee badges can't be used for voting.
Alcohol isn't a necessity and when you reach a certain age, it is hardly ever required to show ID.

No jurisdiction can require a photo ID to register to vote since that would violate federal law.
It is quite easy to get on board a commercial aircraft without a photo ID. You only need a boarding pass. It might be a little harder to get through TSA but it isn't required. The new facial recognition used by Clear means you don't need photo ID at the airport.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I would love to know the backstory, TOP, behind your mistrusting non-photogenic people.
Some of us unfortunately evolve into that situation.

I may have mentioned, my college ID photo looks really great;
more recent shots? Not so much.
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There's no mistrust of non-photogenic people..There's just a lot of reasons that people aren't gonna get asked for a photo id so everyone should have one... Why do you disagree with that? I don't make the rules... ;) Things have changed... Everyone needs one these days... I think you can't trust anybody.Anymore is kind of what necessitates the need for one... Can you believe there would be a time when you needed a photo ID to get into a school building? We require proper identification when we choose someone to adopt a pup... It's just a smart thing to do...
 
Everyone should have a photo ID... If they never ever have to use it what's the big loss? If they need it they have it...
 
PostmodernProphet said:
the most logical way to have fraud would be 1) identify people who never vote 2) create a fake registration using their name and SS#, 3) get an absentee ballot for that registration 4) drop them by the box load in unsupervised boxes at 3 am......
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The voter rolls are public. So you get a list of the people who supposedly voted, and go and talk to the real people. If this was a problem, years ago, it would have been found.

PostmodernProphet said:
you only needed 47,000 of them spread over four states to put your candidate in the Oval Office, not millions of them......
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That is only if you perfectly know the outcome, how many, and where the votes are needed. That would only be known in hindsight. And it assumes there was a perfect tie before the fraud.

trump is claiming fraud in the 10% range, so you take 1,000 voters and you should discover 100 fraudulent votes. If there really was voter fraud, it should be easy to discover.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
a registration filed by a person who ISN'T the voter......
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Then find them. This is where things fall apart for your side. You always end up in court saying "I have a conspiracy blog that says this is possible", the judge asks do you have any evidence, and you have to answer no.

It has been years now, and you cannot find the first bit of evidence. That sort of tells us there is no evidence.
 
TOP said:
There's no mistrust of non-photogenic people..There's just a lot of reasons that people aren't gonna get asked for a photo id so everyone should have one... Why do you disagree with that? I don't make the rules... ;) Things have changed... Everyone needs one these days... I think you can't trust anybody.Anymore is kind of what necessitates the need for one... Can you believe there would be a time when you needed a photo ID to get into a school building? We require proper identification when we choose someone to adopt a pup... It's just a smart thing to do...
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It is odd that Republicans are so against using student IDs as ID to vote. They even refuse to use passports as ID to vote. Their heads implode at using any military or veteran ID to vote.

Why should voting be connected to driving?
 
TOP said:
There's no mistrust of non-photogenic people..There's just a lot of reasons that people aren't gonna get asked for a photo id so everyone should have one... Why do you disagree with that? I don't make the rules... ;) Things have changed... Everyone needs one these days... I think you can't trust anybody.Anymore is kind of what necessitates the need for one... Can you believe there would be a time when you needed a photo ID to get into a school building? We require proper identification when we choose someone to adopt a pup... It's just a smart thing to do...
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We've discussed this, TOP.

Our primary form of identification in the United States is the Social Security card.

People get that in their infancy so relatives can stuff Birthday and First Communion and Graduation
and that sort of money into accounts for them. Do they still do Savings Bonds? I don't know. Haven't seen one in a while.

What's the point of photographing an infant?
How long do we look like our baby pictures?

It's hard to remember, but I think that they send SS cards in the mail.
They don't even make the baby go to the post office or city hall or anything...thankfully.
I'm curious what many JPP regulars did before I was around to explain these simple things.:laugh:
 
Walt said:
It is odd that Republicans are so against using student IDs as ID to vote. They even refuse to use passports as ID to vote. Their heads implode at using any military or veteran ID to vote.

Why should voting be connected to driving?
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I think although should be acceptable... Is a driver's license isn't the only acceptable ID...
 
NiftyNiblick said:
We've discussed this, TOP.

Our primary form of identification in the United States is the Social Security card.

People get that in their infancy so relatives can stuff Birthday and First Communion and Graduation
and that sort of money into accounts for them. Do they still do Savings Bonds? I don't know. Haven't seen one in a while.

What's the point of photographing an infant?
How long do we look like our baby pictures?

It's hard to remember, but I think that they send SS cards in the mail.
They don't even make the baby go to the post office or city hall or anything...thankfully.
I'm curious what many JPP regulars did before I was around to explain these simple things.:laugh:
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A social security card by itself won't work... No need to photograph the baby

Although everyone does;) It's quite a process if you need to get a new social security card by the way...things have changed... Just get a photo id
...why is that a problem?
 
TOP said:
A social security card by itself won't work... No need to photograph the baby

Although everyone does;) It's quite a process if you need to get a new social security card by the way...things have changed... Just get a photo id
...why is that a problem?
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I've got a few, TOP. Why do you keep asking me that?
I don't know why they're so important, but I have a few.

That 1960s college ID card is still my favorite, though.
 
TOP said:
I think although should be acceptable... Is a driver's license isn't the only acceptable ID...
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You know the Republicans, always trying to tweak the rules to exclude huge number of voters. For a while there, Texas allowed out-of-state handwritten hunting licenses, but still completely bans the use of state issued school IDs.

The next step is limiting the number of non-drivers licenses that are allowed to be issued. Only 1,000 state ID's per county per week is more than enough for a county of 10,000 people, but is nowhere near enough for a major city.

We all know what the point of all this is.
 
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