American Man
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I think we should arm every prisoner with a pistol and let them loose.
After a gun safety course, of course.
Alec Baldwin Fired Prop Gun That Killed Halyna Hutchins, Injured Director
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I think we should arm every prisoner with a pistol and let them loose.
After a gun safety course, of course.
No...it was pointed at a bird!!!
Whittington ``came up from behind the vice president and the other hunter and didn’t signal them or indicate to them or announce himself,″ said Armstrong, who was in the car.
``The vice president didn’t see him,″ she said. ``The covey flushed and the vice president picked out a bird and was following it and shot. And by god, Harry was in the line of fire and got peppered pretty good.″
https://apnews.com/article/f47afe6b145eaf98d61e9cd38116f584
Baldwin pointed at her.. someone not part of any movie scene
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
Thank you for confirming.
He pointed the gun at a bird!
Was there something between Baldwin and her that he was pointing at? As of now that answer would be NO
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
Yep. The camera.
This was a rehearsal of a scene where Balwin upholsterers (quick draw?) his gun, they were working to get the cameras right, that was all that was supposed to be happening according to the LA Times.
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
Exactly. It was a legit accident. It's tragic. The other two people are responsible.
Letting crew play with the guns on their off time, the AD handing a hot gun to Baldwin without checking it, storing live ammo with the blanks, are all gross negligence not accident.
I am increasingly convinced that those who covered the insurance will balk.
Than she should have not been behind the cam! And if she was he should not have fired!
“If you need to point a weapon at the camera, the area must be locked off so that there is no one behind it. You never fire at or near the camera,” he adds. “Sometimes the shot may require it, in which case, the entire area must be cleared for safety precautions.”
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...ovie-munitions-experts-gun-safety-1235035713/
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
I bet the AD will be charged with negligent homicide. Alec? I do not know.
Examples include the crash of Aeroperu Flight 603 near Lima, Peru. The accident was caused by a piece of duct tape that was left over the static ports (on the bottom side of the fuselage) after cleaning the aircraft, which led to the crash. An employee had left the tape on[2] and was charged with negligent homicide. Other times, an intentional killing may be negotiated down to the lesser charge as a compromised resolution of a murder case, as might occur in the context of the intentional shooting of an unarmed man after a traffic altercation.
If one person is criminally charged it would have to be the AD.
If Alec fired at the camera without these guidelines than he bares some responsibly..he is the one that fired
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I feel like I am getting lied to about industry standards..... I read someone today who said basically "On my movies we check the guns about ten times, every time". It feels like virtue signalling by telling lies. I think people who know how gun safety on set has traditionally worked, and it has worked, are staying quiet. I am not believing the claims "on set one always assumes that the gun is loaded".
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
If so, then why did the pistol have any ammunition of any sort in it at all?
MORE RELEVANT IS: "WHY THE FUCK WAS THE FAT ASSED MORION POINTING THE GUN AT ANYONE , AND THEN PULLING THE TRIGGER ???"
NEGLIGENT. RECKLESS. HOMICIDE. PERIOD.
Exactly....there should have been nothing in the gun.....but I think we know that the AD did not even attempt to look....I am told that it is impossible to miss a round in this weapon with a simple look.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
The round under the hammer might not be visible, but the next round to be fired--the first-- would clearly be because the cylinder rotates before the gun fires.
So we get told that the armorer set up three guns on a cart, and the AD handed one of them to Baldwin proclaiming it safe....my questions are:
1) was the armorer present when the AD handed Baldwin the gun?
2) when had she set up the cart?
3) was it always in the possession of either the armorer or the AD?
4) if not are we looking at a situation were someone who was pissed at how the set was being run placed a live round in the weapon to get back at the people making the movie, or maybe just the AD, who I understand has a way of making himself deeply disliked? Remember the 911 call.
1) was the armorer present when the AD handed Baldwin the gun?
2) when had she set up the cart?
3) was it always in the possession of either the armorer or the AD?
4) if not are we looking at a situation were someone who was pissed at how the set was being run placed a live round in the weapon to get back at the people making the movie, or maybe just the AD, who I understand has a way of making himself deeply disliked? Remember the 911 call.
The head armorer of 'Rust' once gave an 11-year-old actress a gun without checking it properly
She should have never been hired!! Who hired her,,, Baldwin?