If Epicurus actually wrote that crap, Epicurus was a jerk. At least as much a jerk as the people who wrote crap that results in, "therefore there is a GOD."
Why make any of those assumptions that form the predicates of those sentences?
Atheists: a 5 year old is on her deathbed....
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If Epicurus actually wrote that crap, Epicurus was a jerk. At least as much a jerk as the people who wrote crap that results in, "therefore there is a GOD."
Why make any of those assumptions that form the predicates of those sentences?
Who the fuck are YOU to call people who consider themselves agnostic on the questions of whether there are gods or not...to be cowards?
Only a horse's ass would do that.
I'd debate you on this question while doing a difficult word puzzle!
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You know it is the former and you are too noncommittal to acknowledge it.
I suspect you have someone in your life who believes in magical beings and afterlife fantasies, and you are afraid of hurting their feelings if you told what you really think, so you pretend you don't know.
It's not uncommon.
Facts don't care about anyone's feelings.
Yep.
Frank,
Go ahead and defend your logic against his. Try it line by line.
The Christisn god is supposedly omniscient, omnibenevolent and omnipotent. Like it or not, Epicurus destroys that concept.
who the fuck am I? I'm grind, and I know shit.
calling oneself an agnostic is fucking stupid. you can be an agnostic atheist, a gnostic atheist, an agnostic christian, or a gnostic christian. so when one calls themselves an agnostic, they are demonstrating how dumb they are.
stay butthurt
Althea
Althea told me...........
Ask her what her vision of heaven is
Dormer...think that out.
Stop doing what the theists do...making blind guesses and asserting them as facts.
You do not good for reason when you do that.
The meme is childish and self-serving...even more childish and self-serving as the proof of Aquinas.
'You'll get a good sleep and no-one will ever bully, punish or spite you any more.'
You are a jerk-off...although it is interesting to understand that you are "the grind" so many people laugh at here in this forum.
Your first point was that if you answered "yes" (you said you might) you would be lying. So...you are pretending you know there is not "heaven."
There may be. Your blind guess that there isn't is of no more value than the blind guess of a theist who says that there is.
Your second point was that "agnostic" was an adjective...not a noun.
Quote from a standard dictionary that does not show agnostic as a NOUN as well as an adjective. And in most cases, the dictionary will show "noun" as the primary part of speech.
You are as ugly in being as your avatar.
If anyone is "butthurt" it is you, not I.
I'm just having a bit of fun.
Frank, it’s merely a hypothetical. Do I believe I’m lying when I tell a five year old she’s going to heaven? Yep.
I’m also lying when I tell her about the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus. So, where’s the harm?
Don’t answer the points it challenges then.
The bottom line question is: Are there any gods...or are there none.
My answer is...I do not know and I can think of no way I can know.
More specifically:
I do not know if gods exist or not;
I see no reason to suspect gods CANNOT EXIST...that the existence of gods is impossible;
I see no reason to suspect that gods MUST EXIST...that gods are needed to explain existence;
I do not see enough unambiguous evidence upon which to base a meaningful guess in either direction...
...so I don't.
What is yours?
"The Christisn god is supposedly omniscient, omnibenevolent and omnipotent. Like it or not, Epicurus destroys that concept. "
That does not establish there are no gods. It does not even establish that the "Christian" (Jewish) GOD does not exist.
It may (just, may) establish that some of the attributes of the god as given by the Jews and Christians...are not properly stated.
The meme is an absurdity.
I know you thought this would be a mind pretzel that would stump liberals, but that thought would only occur to someone of limited imagination and low educational level.
That answer to this is easy, and does not even take a nanosecond to prepare for.
First, you should never lie to anyone - children least of all. To the dying we owe the truth, first and foremost. My response to a child in in this specific context is that a lot of people think you are going somewhere wonderful when your body expires. That is both a tactful and honest answer in that context. An answer that respects both the child and myself.
I don't often disagree with you, Cypress...but I do here.
The answer to the hypothetical from a 5 year old child...is, "Yes."
It makes no difference if the answer is correct or incorrect. (It truly cannot be a lie...because you can be no more sure there is no Heaven...than a theist can be sure there is one.)
It would a travesty to try to be philosophical with a dying youngster...and my guess is a dying youngster would see through the "a lot of people think you are going somewhere wonderful" stuff.
A child asking this is begging for a 'YES!"
In my opinion, anyone who thinks he/she would not give that answer really needs to do a major introspection.