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Coronavirus is a scam
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Stealing this.
Imagine that. The same Democrats who were caught lying about President Trump cutting CDC and NIH budgets supported Obama as he tried to impose hundreds of millions of dollars in CDC cuts himself. It's almost as if there were some kind of objective reason both parties wanted to cut the CDC's budget...a reason that's not being talked about now...like scandals, bad science, and malfeasance, perhaps?
"The Obama administration repeatedly sought to cut hundreds of millions of dollars in funding to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), yearly budget requests show -- seemingly undercutting former Vice President Joe Biden's repeated attacks on the Trump White House for its pandemic preparedness."
Obama admin repeatedly sought millions in CDC funding cuts, despite Biden's attacks on Trump preparedness
Obama admin repeatedly sought millions in CDC funding cuts, despite Biden's attacks on Trump preparedness
Again, even Democrats are being forced to praise President Trump's unprecedented proactive successes in handling this Democrat-created crisis.
This is California's Gavin Newsom:
So by all means Democrats, give us your next bullshit lie, dishonest scumbags. Even your own side can't help but admit the truth.
This is California's Gavin Newsom:
“Let me just be candid with you. I’d be lying to you to say that [Trump] hasn’t been responsive to our needs. He has. And so, as a sort of an offer of objectivity, I have to acknowledge that publicly...The fact is, every time that I've called the president, he's quickly gotten on the line. When we asked to get the support for that [USNS] Mercy ship in Southern California, he was able to direct that in real-time. We've got 2,000 of these field medical sites that are up, almost all operational now in the state, because of his support. Those are the facts."
After attacking Trump's coronavirus-related China travel ban as xenophobic, Dems and media have changed tune
After attacking Trump's coronavirus-related China travel ban as xenophobic, Dems and media have changed tune
So by all means Democrats, give us your next bullshit lie, dishonest scumbags. Even your own side can't help but admit the truth.
More hilariously self-discrediting hypocrisy from our partisan DNC news media. 
They Attacked Trump For Touting ‘Unproven Drugs,’ Now The NYT Is Reporting It Can Help With Coronavirus
They Attacked Trump For Touting ‘Unproven Drugs,’ Now The NYT Is Reporting It Can Help With Coronavirus
One of the most cited and well-respected medical microbiologists on Earth introduces the left's anti-science fear-mongering doomsday cult to all the painfully obvious gaping holes in their ignorant "sky is falling" propaganda. This is the notorious Sucharit Bhakdi, Professor Emeritus of Medical Microbiology at the Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz asking the German Chancellor some very simplified Kindergarten-level questions (that she cannot answer) to make it abundantly clear what a hoax this is.
Boom!
Boom!
*Facts, science, and math look more sinister with each "still under 1%, just like the flu" death...to the left's anti-science fear-mongering doomsday cult.
Trump now places best case scenario at not less than 100,000 -240,000 US deaths and more than a million in worst case assumptions, whatever the fuck that fat moron "assumed".
Who is stoking panic now, moron.
If you and your better hag really are in this industry, troll, I am much more confident in the million plus dead figure.
It’s curious that the White House won’t show how they arrived at their estimated death total. The governors implemented the stay at home and the death rates as a result will be lower. Do you think if the number doesn’t reach 240,00 Trump will declare it was because of him?Trump now places best case scenario at not less than 100,000 US deaths and up to more than a million.
Who is stoking panic now, moron.
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No doubt. Trump is well known to claim credit where none is due or pass blame to subordinates that rightfully falls to him.
The one situation where an entire, closed population was tested was the Diamond Princess cruise ship and its quarantine passengers.
The case fatality rate there was 1.0%, but this was a largely elderly population, in which the death rate from Covid-19 is much higher.
The general ignorance of journalists when it comes to reporting scientific research is making the response worse.
Consider the complicating factors when trying to project that one cruise ship’s mortality rate “onto the age structure of the U.S. population”: It’s based on seven deaths, in a population that “may have different frequencies of chronic diseases” than the general population.
A population-wide case fatality rate of 0.05% is lower than seasonal influenza. If that is the true rate, locking down the world with potentially tremendous social and financial consequences may be totally irrational. Stanford scientist John Ioannidis notes that “mild” coronaviruses (not COVID-19) have much higher case fatality rates when infecting “elderly people in nursing homes” (the main cluster of cases in the Seattle area), and account for up to a tenth of respiratory hospitalizations.
Ioannidis further notes the difficulty of nailing down what might have killed a person with multiple infections, citing an autopsy series of elderly victims of respiratory viruses: “A positive test for coronavirus does not mean necessarily that this virus is always primarily responsible for a patient’s demise.”
His own “mid-range guess” for the COVID-19 mortality rate – 0.3 percent of the general population – would produce 10,000 deaths, but that would not even register a blip “within the noise” of estimated deaths from “influenza-like illness.”
Without better data (and yes, the Trump administration irredeemably botched the shutdown), policymakers are using “prepare-for-the-worst reasoning” to impose “extreme measures of social distancing and lockdowns”:
Unfortunately, we do not know if these measures work. School closures, for example, may reduce transmission rates. But they may also backfire if children socialize anyhow, if school closure leads children to spend more time with susceptible elderly family members, if children at home disrupt their parents ability to work, and more. School closures may also diminish the chances of developing herd immunity in an age group that is spared serious disease.
The conventional wisdom to “flatten the curve” – managing the load on the health system through social distancing – could even backfire, Ioannidis writes: "Yet if the health system does become overwhelmed, the majority of the extra deaths may not be due to coronavirus but to other common diseases and conditions such as heart attacks, strokes, trauma, bleeding, and the like that are not adequately treated. If the level of the epidemic does overwhelm the health system and extreme measures have only modest effectiveness, then flattening the curve may make things worse: Instead of being overwhelmed during a short, acute phase, the health system will remain overwhelmed for a more protracted period. That’s another reason we need data about the exact level of the epidemic activity".
https://tinyurl.com/u6qyjcw
The case fatality rate there was 1.0%, but this was a largely elderly population, in which the death rate from Covid-19 is much higher.
The general ignorance of journalists when it comes to reporting scientific research is making the response worse.
Consider the complicating factors when trying to project that one cruise ship’s mortality rate “onto the age structure of the U.S. population”: It’s based on seven deaths, in a population that “may have different frequencies of chronic diseases” than the general population.
A population-wide case fatality rate of 0.05% is lower than seasonal influenza. If that is the true rate, locking down the world with potentially tremendous social and financial consequences may be totally irrational. Stanford scientist John Ioannidis notes that “mild” coronaviruses (not COVID-19) have much higher case fatality rates when infecting “elderly people in nursing homes” (the main cluster of cases in the Seattle area), and account for up to a tenth of respiratory hospitalizations.
Ioannidis further notes the difficulty of nailing down what might have killed a person with multiple infections, citing an autopsy series of elderly victims of respiratory viruses: “A positive test for coronavirus does not mean necessarily that this virus is always primarily responsible for a patient’s demise.”
His own “mid-range guess” for the COVID-19 mortality rate – 0.3 percent of the general population – would produce 10,000 deaths, but that would not even register a blip “within the noise” of estimated deaths from “influenza-like illness.”
Without better data (and yes, the Trump administration irredeemably botched the shutdown), policymakers are using “prepare-for-the-worst reasoning” to impose “extreme measures of social distancing and lockdowns”:
Unfortunately, we do not know if these measures work. School closures, for example, may reduce transmission rates. But they may also backfire if children socialize anyhow, if school closure leads children to spend more time with susceptible elderly family members, if children at home disrupt their parents ability to work, and more. School closures may also diminish the chances of developing herd immunity in an age group that is spared serious disease.
The conventional wisdom to “flatten the curve” – managing the load on the health system through social distancing – could even backfire, Ioannidis writes: "Yet if the health system does become overwhelmed, the majority of the extra deaths may not be due to coronavirus but to other common diseases and conditions such as heart attacks, strokes, trauma, bleeding, and the like that are not adequately treated. If the level of the epidemic does overwhelm the health system and extreme measures have only modest effectiveness, then flattening the curve may make things worse: Instead of being overwhelmed during a short, acute phase, the health system will remain overwhelmed for a more protracted period. That’s another reason we need data about the exact level of the epidemic activity".
https://tinyurl.com/u6qyjcw
Indeed.
Yes, the people noticing the fact that this isn't even as bad as the ordinary flu belong in the rubber room, and not the hyperventilating lunatics trying to turn the ordinary flu into the Apocalypse.
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WHO belongs in a rubber room?
And? That's still easily within 1%, just like the flu. You're ignorantly hyperventilating over nothing like the gullible little lemming Democrats want you to be.
The person trying to fear-monger the ordinary flu into the Apocalypse, obviously.
Behold, the enlightened, morally superior party of "tolerance" and "diversity," psychotically consumed with unhinged, rabid hate and viciously lashing out anyone who reaches a different conclusion than them.
All the studies show that the outcome is inevitable that this will become endemic, and that all this senseless overreaction and gridlock barely delays that from happening. So of COURSE he won't admit that this Democrat-created crisis was his fault. That wouldn't even make sense.
Understatement of the decade.
Actually we do. The studies are clear and unanimous. None of this will work (except to very temporarily delay 100% exposure), and everyone will end up with the disease. Hence the complete and utter senselessness of all this gridlock and quasi-martial law.
Why do you enjoy playing the fool? You look retarded in the thread from the first post to this one.
This pandemic is a scam.... That statement alone makes you a fucking moron. And now that the numbers bear it out, and your god the orange criminal is finally on our side on this, you persist in being a flaming idiot.
I know this is anonymous, but still...what is the psychology of someone who purposefully spends all day, every day intentionally playing the part of a fucking moron?
The entire country is shut down except for two moronic states, everyone is wearing masks and staying at home, the death count is exponential, Trump admits 100K to more than a million may die, you can't
go to a restaurant, and the entire country looks like a bread line or ghost towns.
YOU FUCKING RETARD. Everyone is crazy except you.