Electricity storage impossible with current rtechnologies

Corazón said:
They have to feed them astaxanthin to turn the flesh pink, otherwise the customers would freak out at the grey pallid colour. They also have to use hydrogen peroxide to keep down sea lice and antibiotics to prevent diseases.
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Lots of meats are routinely dyed.
 
Rune said:
Dude don't go there.
Sailor knows what he is talking about.
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No, he doesn't. He already said he doesn't farm anything but oysters. Three categories: wild, wild caught and farmed were listed in the source I provided. He asserted no fish were raised and released. That contradicts category two. They are indeed raised and released. He is wrong, he is stupid. I injected myself into their semantic debate to point out the third category nobody was considering, a category that is a mashup of farmed and wild.
 
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Rune said:
Shithead; farmed fish are raised in pens and sold to the public.
You really are a stupid fuckhead.
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There is a category called wild caught, a euphemism. Born and raised in hatcheries, released as juveniles, then recaught. How a fisherman would know by looking is interesting.
 
Corazón said:
Maybe in the US but not over here. They allow carbon monoxide to be injected into meat to give it a pinkish blush. The practice is totally banned throughout the EU.
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Yeah, you got that mad cow thing going on over there. No reason to dye your meats...
 
Micawber said:
There is a category called wild caught, a euphemism. Born and raised in hatcheries, released as juveniles, then recaught. How a fisherman would know by looking is interesting.
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No.
It is still wild as long as it isn't grown in a cage.
 
Micawber said:
The only bone I'd pick with that is it fools people into thinking the fish may be healthier or more fresh than it actually was.
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No wild caught fish is ever as fresh as farm raised fish (killed to order),
and I say that as a professional commercial fisherman.
 
Corazón said:
Excellent article which provides some actual numbers to show that storage using current technologies is just a pipedream. Here is an excerpt.



https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/07/23/tesla-battery-subsidy-and-sustainability-fantasies/
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http://www.baystreet.ca/articles/commodities.aspx?articleid=31617



Baystreet Staff - Wednesday, August 02, 2017

Did Google Just Tackle The Biggest Problem In Energy?

Any news about energy storage advancement is bound to make a splash. After all, storage is the main stumbling block for renewable energy—data from Bloomberg New Energy Finance reveals that over the first six months of 2017, California lost more than 300,000 MW of solar and wind power because there was no storage capacity. China is losing about 17 percent of its renewable power because it can’t store all of it either. On top of that, Bloomberg notes, utilities are shunning renewable energy because of the intermittent nature of solar and wind power generation.

Energy storage is essential for the viability of renewables, leaving pioneers in the industry desperately searching for the only path toward increasing the presence of renewables in the energy market: finding suitable storage solutions.

And to that end, there has been a string of new projects in the energy storage department. Last month, Tesla said it was starting to build the largest lithium-ion storage system in the world in Australia. Later that month, Siemens and AES announced a joint venture—Fluence—which will focus on energy storage system development and marketing.

Now, Alphabet, Google’s parent, is joining the party with an alternative to the lithium-ion battery systems. Its Malta project, led by the X research lab of the company, is working on a prototype of a system that uses salt and a hydrocarbon fluid, such as antifreeze, to transform electricity into air and vice versa. If that sounds a bit vague, Bloomberg’s Mark Bergen has provided a more detailed explanation:

“Two tanks are filled with salt, and two are filled with antifreeze or a hydrocarbon liquid. The system takes in energy in the form of electricity and turns it into separate streams of hot and cold air. The hot air heats up the salt, while the cold air cools the antifreeze, a bit like a refrigerator. The jet engine part: Flip a switch and the process reverses. Hot and cold air rush toward each other, creating powerful gusts that spin a turbine and spit out electricity when the grid needs it.”

It sounds simple, and it also sounds cheap, which is a top priority in energy storage systems to make them commercially viable on a wide enough scale. Yet this X prototype seems to be in the preliminary stages of development, and years may pass before it’s market-ready.

Meanwhile, other alternatives are popping up, too. Earlier this year, a new battery that uses glass instead of liquid electrolytes received well-deserved media coverage. According to the researchers who developed it, the battery has at least three times the energy density of other lithium-ion batteries, and it has a longer life cycle (a minimum of 1,200 charge-discharge cycles), and it charges more quickly—in minutes instead of hours. On top of all of this, the low-cost battery—yes, it’s cheap—can work in both subzero temperatures (-20 degrees Celsius) and major heat (60 degrees Celsius).
 
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