I Didn’t Vote for Donald Trump. Now I Wish I Had

Virtue Signaler said:
Illegal immigration
You support NAFTA

But keep spinning. I am enjoying exposing you as a fraud.
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Free trade agreements are now liberal? (they are classical liberal not today's liberal). So now all of a sudden nativist tariffs are conservative? That's pretty convenient isn't it?

And what's my position on illegal immigration, which along with race, is what has you so upset here
 
Virtue Signaler said:
Bet you loved that BAC thanked your virtue signaling post though. So there is that

You keep wanting to make it about race and I haven’t said anything about that. Which leads me to believe you are deflecting
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You act like your feelings here are new. Race and immigration has been at the core of it all along.
 
Cypress said:
Trump: I Supported the Libya Military Intervention....Hugely!
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oh please..now you're resulting to spamming.

It's already been explained to you that Hillary had ALL the information a Sec of State would in evaluating whether to bomb a country.
She knew about LIFG being a big part of the NTC, and she backed the terrorist anyway because of promises of "democracy" -a typical neo-con misadventure.

What did Trump know? about the same as the rest of the population, except for the few that did the research this
was a neocon misadventure shaping up as R2P - an Albright/UN construct.

Hillary should have known better. She went ahead and persuaded Trump to bomb anyways.
Trump was out in the cold like the rest - and went along with popular opinion.

But DO keep spamming, and I'll have fun knocking the crap out of your spam
 
cawacko said:
Free trade agreements are now liberal? (they are classical liberal not today's liberal). So now all of a sudden nativist tariffs are conservative? That's pretty convenient isn't it?

And what's my position on illegal immigration, which along with race, is what has you so upset here
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please don't tell us you support NAFTA as it is? were you wanting the TPP as well? (asking)
 
noise said:
please don't tell us you support NAFTA as it is? were you wanting the TPP as well? (asking)
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I am a classical liberal, always have been. I support free trade and free people. I understand people can differ but I've never wavered on it. NAFTA has been very beneficial to the U.S. as a whole
 
noise said:
oh please..now you're resulting to spamming.

It's already been explained to you that Hillary had ALL the information a Sec of State would in evaluating whether to bomb a country.
She knew about LIFG being a big part of the NTC, and she backed the terrorist anyway because of promises of "democracy" -a typical neo-con misadventure.

What did Trump know? about the same as the rest of the population, except for the few that did the research this
was a neocon misadventure shaping up as R2P - an Albright/UN construct.

Hillary should have known better. She went ahead and persuaded Trump to bomb anyways.
Trump was out in the cold like the rest - and went along with popular opinion.

But DO keep spamming, and I'll have fun knocking the crap out of your spam
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You should note this: you keep arguing that it's a GOOD thing that Trump goes off half-cocked without really knowing anything.
 
cawacko said:
I am a classical liberal, always have been. I support free trade and free people. I understand people can differ but I've never wavered on it. NAFTA has been very beneficial to the U.S. as a whole
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you're an odd bird..libertarian leaning globalist.. NAFTA is one of those things that sound great but have very much contributed to sucking out good jobs ..here's updates on negotiations

NAFTA NEGOTIATIONS
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/20/nafta-negotiations-will-end-in-an-agreement-say-economists/
The remarkably sanguine view from economists in Mexico, Canada and the United States is a sign many experts are taking U.S. President Donald Trump's repeated warnings that he wants his country to withdraw from the pact, which he has repeatedly said is unfair to American businesses, with a grain of salt.

"We expect a modernized agreement after a bumpy and lengthy negotiation and approval process," said Carlos Capistran, head of Canada and Mexico economics at Bank of America Merrill Lynch. "It will be an update ... with marginal changes. The bulk of it will remain the same."

The sixth and penultimate round of talks to revamp the agreement underpinning more than $1 trillion per year in trade among the three countries will begin in Montreal on Tuesday.

The agenda is likely to include a proposal to mandate more auto manufacturing in the United States, a dispute settlement mechanism and a five-year sunset clause.


Pivotal Nafta Talks to Start Early, Be Longest Round Yet
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...alks-said-to-start-early-be-longest-round-yet
 
cawacko said:
Free trade agreements are now liberal? (they are classical liberal not today's liberal). So now all of a sudden nativist tariffs are conservative? That's pretty convenient isn't it?

And what's my position on illegal immigration, which along with race, is what has you so upset here
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I have answered your questions. Now answer mine if you aren’t too afraid.

As it pertains to policy what exactly has Trump done that you oppose. Be specific. Should be easy for a proud NeverTrumper like you

PS

I am 100% in favor of free trade. I just oppose trade agreements. Probably too difficult for a liberal like you to comprehend.
 
Thing1 said:
You should note this: you keep arguing that it's a GOOD thing that Trump goes off half-cocked without really knowing anything.
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no. Trump in this case went with the majority.
The difference is Hillary had all the insider info ( some pretty sketchy, but still cited as reasons to bomb)

Trump had what the rest of us did.
That still makes Trump's view incorrect, but the perspective/resources the 2 had were entirely different.

Hillary's theme song: "I should have known better"
 
cawacko said:
You act like your feelings here are new. Race and immigration has been at the core of it all along.
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Let me be more clear as you are clearly posting hungover again (your poor daughter).

My criticisms of you have nothing to do with race. I am focusing 100% on policy. You keep hiding behind race calling me a racist which is a typical liberal tactic.

But hey BAC supports you so that is something.
 
noise said:
you're an odd bird..libertarian leaning globalist.. NAFTA is one of those things that sound great but have very much contributed to sucking out good jobs ..here's updates on negotiations

NAFTA NEGOTIATIONS
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/20/nafta-negotiations-will-end-in-an-agreement-say-economists/
The remarkably sanguine view from economists in Mexico, Canada and the United States is a sign many experts are taking U.S. President Donald Trump's repeated warnings that he wants his country to withdraw from the pact, which he has repeatedly said is unfair to American businesses, with a grain of salt.

"We expect a modernized agreement after a bumpy and lengthy negotiation and approval process," said Carlos Capistran, head of Canada and Mexico economics at Bank of America Merrill Lynch. "It will be an update ... with marginal changes. The bulk of it will remain the same."

The sixth and penultimate round of talks to revamp the agreement underpinning more than $1 trillion per year in trade among the three countries will begin in Montreal on Tuesday.

The agenda is likely to include a proposal to mandate more auto manufacturing in the United States, a dispute settlement mechanism and a five-year sunset clause.


Pivotal Nafta Talks to Start Early, Be Longest Round Yet
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...alks-said-to-start-early-be-longest-round-yet
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I don’t think Wacko is smart enough to understand the details.

His heroes McCain and Romney say “I am for free trade and NAFTA is free trade” so Wackoff just accepts it as face value.

He is as bad as any leftist here refusing to accept reality. It really scarred him being wrong about 2016
 
noise said:
you're an odd bird..libertarian leaning globalist.. NAFTA is one of those things that sound great but have very much contributed to sucking out good jobs ..here's updates on negotiations

NAFTA NEGOTIATIONS
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/20/nafta-negotiations-will-end-in-an-agreement-say-economists/
The remarkably sanguine view from economists in Mexico, Canada and the United States is a sign many experts are taking U.S. President Donald Trump's repeated warnings that he wants his country to withdraw from the pact, which he has repeatedly said is unfair to American businesses, with a grain of salt.

"We expect a modernized agreement after a bumpy and lengthy negotiation and approval process," said Carlos Capistran, head of Canada and Mexico economics at Bank of America Merrill Lynch. "It will be an update ... with marginal changes. The bulk of it will remain the same."

The sixth and penultimate round of talks to revamp the agreement underpinning more than $1 trillion per year in trade among the three countries will begin in Montreal on Tuesday.

The agenda is likely to include a proposal to mandate more auto manufacturing in the United States, a dispute settlement mechanism and a five-year sunset clause.


Pivotal Nafta Talks to Start Early, Be Longest Round Yet
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...alks-said-to-start-early-be-longest-round-yet
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I'm your basic run of the mill Reagan Conservative. I'm an odd bird having those beliefs in SF but not across the country.
 
cawacko said:
I'm your basic run of the mill Reagan Conservative. I'm an odd bird having those beliefs in SF but not across the country.
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I've come to appreciate Reagan.. we all got fat and happy. Hopefully Trump continues that..looking good so far..

I like Gary Johnson too - libertarianism is the way to go in many cases
 
noise said:
I've come to appreciate Reagan.. we all got fat and happy. Hopefully Trump continues that..looking good so far..

I like Gary Johnson too - libertarianism is the way to go in many cases
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except the country doesn't agree
 
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