Is Christian culture compatabel with Western Culture....

This sort of discussion is always confusing, since Americans, who mostly worship Mammon, insist on calling themselves 'Christian', and because, whereas the position of women was passable in Persia, their position in Rome was crappy, and in classical Greece (except Sparta, where everyone was a soldier under orders) positively Middle-Eastern. Amongst many other things, of course.
 
iolo said:
This sort of discussion is always confusing, since Americans, who mostly worship Mammon, insist on calling themselves 'Christian', and because, whereas the position of women was passable in Persia, their position in Rome was crappy, and in classical Greece (except Sparta, where everyone was a soldier under orders) positively Middle-Eastern. Amongst many other things, of course.
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logically, those folks who "mostly worship Mammon" aren't the ones calling themselves Christians......instead they're the ones who hang around this board complaining about Christians........
 
PostmodernProphet said:
logically, those folks who "mostly worship Mammon" aren't the ones calling themselves Christians......instead they're the ones who hang around this board complaining about Christians........
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Hardly - American 'Christians' seem, for the most part, never to have read the New Testament and to be slavering for dollars at anyone's cost but their own. It is just a useful label in business over there, I think.
 
Racistguy said:
And both embraced christiamity. You could say one was conquered by it.
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Not long after Romans "embraced" Christianity, they were conquered. By pagans.

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Makes you think. Well, it won't make you think. :rofl2:
 
Jarod said:
They cant seem to understand the concept that while Americans can disagree we still support each other and their right to believe what they chose.
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But actually you don't believe that. For example you believe a business should be FORCED by government decree to violate their religious beliefs like forcing churches to pay for abortions and forcing bakeries to bake cakes for queer marriages. As if one baker can impact the life of a queer and the queer can't find another baker.

So spare me your little soliloquy. Your actions belie your words

My guess is that you haven't thought through this notion of more and more muslimes coming into this country changing the things you hold dear

You falsely believe they will be as compliant to you lefties as the negroes have. They will not
 
Ila Sucks said:
But actually you don't believe that. For example you believe a business should be FORCED by government decree to violate their religious beliefs like forcing churches to pay for abortions and forcing bakeries to bake cakes for queer marriages. As if one baker can impact the life of a queer and the queer can't find another baker. So spare me your little soliloquy. Your actions belie your words My guess is that you haven't thought through this notion of more and more muslimes coming into this country changing the things you hold dear You falsely believe they will be as compliant to you lefties as the negroes have. They will not
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Why do you hate our Constitution?
 
Celticguy said:
And both embraced christiamity. You could say one was conquered by it.
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What's that they say about the Holy Roman Empire? It was neither Holy nor Roman lol.

But it is what it was and it became Christendom. Europe then, was a Christian body politic. Secularists will chafe at that because it implies [they think] theocracy. What it really means, or meant, is that they were a predominantly Christian people who embraced Judeo-Christian values; their culture, art and architecture reflected it.

None of that, is worth saving to them. In fact, here in the states it's their 'evangelical' mission to get us to post-Christian as fast as possible. Even if it means allowing people in who don't share the same cultural values as we do.

And in their minds, we should be powerless to stop it. Hence, all the name-calling.

It's all so bloody transparent.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
What's that they say about the Holy Roman Empire? It was neither Holy nor Roman lol.

But it is what it was and it became Christendom. Europe then, was a Christian body politic. Secularists will chafe at that because it implies [they think] theocracy. What it really means, or meant, is that they were a predominantly Christian people who embraced Judeo-Christian values; their culture, art and architecture reflected it.

None of that, is worth saving to them. In fact, here in the states it's their 'evangelical' mission to get us to post-Christian as fast as possible. Even if it means allowing people in who don't share the same cultural values as we do.

And in their minds, we should be powerless to stop it. Hence, all the name-calling.

It's all so bloody transparent.
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If you read the Sermon on the Mount and go on to read a history of the Crusades organised by 'Christendom', I think you begin to be aware of certain contradictions. Christians are as Christians do.
 
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