Is the time of Liberty at hand?

WinterBorn said:
Let me help by starting the answers on this one.

Classroom prayer
Traditional marriage, not same-sex marriage
Respect for differences between men and women, boys and girls (depending on what is meant here)
Laws against pornography
Parental control of education
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That thread has a long argument where your questions have probably been ax'd and answered. So read it and ax there with something specific. Don't derail this thread.
 
Damn Yankee said:
That thread has a long argument where your questions have probably been ax'd and answered. So read it and ax there with something specific. Don't derail this thread.
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You post a list of social conservative ideals, and when I ask questions about some of them, I am derailling the thread? lmao

The thread you linked is hundreds of posts long. And you say "your questions have probably been ax'd and answered".


What is so hard about answering the questions I asked? Or at least address the issues I brought up as being those that limit personal freedoms.



For example: Classroom Prayer

Who decides what prayer or what faith? If it is a community choice, what of the people in the class who are not of that faith? A moment of silence is fine, but any other would be more gov't interference in private lives. And it would be unnecessary interference.


Traditional marriage, not same-sex marriage

You have lost this one too many times.




Respect for differences between men and women, boys and girls

On this one I simply want some clarification of what is meant. We all know there are differences between male & female. What does the gov't need to do?



Laws against pornography

Why? What right do you or the gov't have to tell me I can't make, sell, or watch porn videos? It certainly is a capitalistic venture, with major revenues and employing a large number of people. Unless the people are underage or those involved are being forced to do so (in which case other laws willl handle it), there is no victim.



Parental control of education

So we should turn the education of our children over to mob rule? If parents don't like the school they can homeschool their kids. But putting the parents in charge of the schools would make any kind of educational standards impossible. And what if the parents demand more and more money? Do we raise taxes for that?







This thread was started on a topic of Libertarianism. You made the claim that fiscal conservatism without social conservatism is impossible. My asking these questions is very much in line with the libertarian point of view.
 
Damn southerner has no answer for how any of those policies coincide with any personal freedom aside from his own.
 
What is the specific socially conservative policy that restricts your freedom? How does it restrict your freedom?
 
Sterling Archer said:
Social conservatism is the polar opposite of freedom and therefore, Libertarianism can exist ONLY without social conservatism.
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Oh I think one could be a 'social conservative' themselves, the difference are those that want to legislate it for everyone.
 
Annie said:
Oh I think one could be a 'social conservative' themselves, the difference are those that want to legislate it for everyone.
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What is the specific socially conservative policy that restricts your freedom? How does it restrict your freedom?
 
Damn Yankee said:
What is the specific socially conservative policy that restricts your freedom? How does it restrict your freedom?
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Answer the questions with something other than a dot, then people may converse. You're attempting to make the rules here, just like you'd like to legislate everyone's behavior to coincide with your beliefs. No thanks.
 
Annie said:
Answer the questions with something other than a dot, then people may converse. You're attempting to make the rules here, just like you'd like to legislate everyone's behavior to coincide with your beliefs. No thanks.
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I'll answer a question that is related to the argument being attempted by my opposition: that social conservatism restricts their rights. They, and you, are apparently afraid to address the real issue, and prefer to attack social conservatism with no actual basis. :)
 
Annie said:
Oh I think one could be a 'social conservative' themselves, the difference are those that want to legislate it for everyone.
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My quote was with respect for government action. Obviously Libertarians don't care how socially conservative anyone else is in their life.
 
Damn Yankee said:
What is the specific socially conservative policy that restricts your freedom? How does it restrict your freedom?
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I listed several items that restrict the individual freedoms of our citizens. That is unacceptable. It does not have to restrict my freedom. If it restricts the freedom of my fellow citizens, it is wrong.
 
Damn Yankee said:
I choose to deal with reality.
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"What is the specific socially conservative policy that restricts your freedom? How does it restrict your freedom?"

I listed specific socially conservative policies that restrict freedom. You want to avoid the topic by trying to do this "Hypothetical/Reality" dodge, thats fine.

So all of the items you listed are 100% reality?
 
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