Jon Stewart is the new Bill Maher.

evince said:
Then we have Kamala remember


How you gonna step over HER to pick someone new the PEOPLE didn’t vote for?
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I'd vote for Kamala! I'll vote for Biden if he's still on the ticket - I just fear he's not going to win after everyone saw him poop the bed at the end of June.
 
Althea said:
They do, but polls are often way off.

Collins in Maine was supposed to lose by 10 points.

She won handily.

IF I bother to pay attention to a poll, I find the sampling and I can see exactly what result was desired.
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538 which compiles and analyzes polls rather than conducting them has been effective. It correctly predicted the outcome in every state in the Obama/Romney election. It missed Hillary's electoral defeat, as did they all. I remember seeing a post mortem of what went wrong, don't remember what it was.
LurchAddams said:
Also, we didn't have a "primary". No serious Democrat challenged Biden. Even the Republicans had debates (to be fair, they all quickly dropped out and kissed trump's ass).
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Right, some of the turnouts were in the ten percent range.
 
Althea said:
Fairly common with an incumbent, but there was a solid 14% that opted for 'someone else'.

High percentage of young voters. That has tripled post debate. Maybe worse in that demographic.
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Primary chose Biden. Corporate Democrats will not succeed in their coup attempt.
 
martin said:
538 which compiles and analyzes polls rather than conducting them has been effective. It correctly predicted the outcome in every state in the Obama/Romney election. It missed Hillary's electoral defeat, as did they all. I remember seeing a post mortem of what went wrong, don't remember what it was.
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I think we need to use a pre/post trump era when analyzing polling. 1/2 of the electorate is now bombarded with reality show nonsense every day of their lives. It's a whole new era of politics.

I think a lot of people purposely lie now when taking the time to be polled. I know 538 analyzes quality polling sites, but I want to read the questions and see the sampling for myself.
 
Hume said:
Primary chose Biden. Corporate Democrats will not succeed in their coup attempt.
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A solid 14% chose 'somebody else'. For exactly what we witnessed during the debate. Losing 14% of likely Democrat voters is bad enough. That number is triple now.
 
Althea said:
A solid 14% chose 'somebody else'. For exactly what we witnessed during the debate. Losing 14% of likely Democrat voters is bad enough. That number is triple now.
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Then why did he win the primary?

I’m beginning to doubt your loyalty to a Democratic win
 
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