Kansas! Even in Kansas…

Althea said:
I would love to see polling
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I actually saw a news story on it last night. Ironically, the opposite was true. Right wing nuts in Kansas were texting actual voters telling them that voting, "Yes" would preserve women's rights.

https://www.kmbc.com/article/amendment-2-election-day-primary-abortion-misleading-texts/40783171#

"Both sides of the abortion debate have been working to motivate voters to head to the polls Tuesday to vote on Amendment 2, a constitutional amendment that, if passed, would allow the state legislature to pass laws further regulating abortion in Kansas.

"OVERLAND PARK, Kan. —
Many Kansas voters have questions after receiving an unusual text Monday night before Tuesday's big Election Day. It's a lie.

The text reads: "Women in Kansas are losing their choice on reproductive rights. Voting yes on the Amendment will give women a choice."A "yes" vote on Amendment 2 approves the amendment, which would allow legislators to pass laws surrounding abortion.

A "no" vote defeats the amendment, keeping current regulations surrounding abortion choice in place.

The text has it backward. It's untrue. And in Kansas, it's perfectly legal for a text like this to be untrue.

The person responsible for sending misleading text messages Monday about the amendment has been suspended from their online account."
 
Jarod said:
Pro-Choice turned out and WON!

The people of conservative Kansas have spoken!

Pro-life is going to be a difficult stance come November
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You morons do realize that for Kansas at least, abortion as a political issue is dead, right? They snuck it into a primary election where each party was just deciding who was actually going to run.

Now the good people of Kansas are free to concentrate on important stuff like how the jackasses are fucking up everything they touch.

Kansas did good. This is what SCOTUS was looking for.
 
anatta said:
never a good idea to remove a right that is settled law. It simply adds more distracted time on cultural issues.
In certain situations it IS a burden on women to get a safe affordable abortion. 15 weeks with exceptions for rape and incest seems doable,but the numbers will always be contested by someone

Kansas doesn't want their legislature to waste time on abortion regs/bans
So they let it be and are telling representatives to work on everyday problems instead
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It is none of your fucking business if a woman is getting an abortion at 5 weeks or 8.99 months.

NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS.
 
Callinectes said:
You morons do realize that for Kansas at least, abortion as a political issue is dead, right? They snuck it into a primary election where each party was just deciding who was actually going to run.

Now the good people of Kansas are free to concentrate on important stuff like how the jackasses are fucking up everything they touch.

Kansas did good. This is what SCOTUS was looking for.
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Kansas protected limited Government because SCOTUS failed to do so.
 
LV426 said:
No, it's a fetus and fetuses aren't people.
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It's a distinct human being. And you are anti-science.

According to Princeton University.

To begin with, scientifically something very radical occurs between the processes of gametogenesis and fertilization the change from a simple part of one human being (i.e., a sperm) and a simple part of another human being (i.e., an oocyte usually referred to as an "ovum" or "egg"), which simply possess "human life", to a new, genetically unique, newly existing, individual, whole living human being (a single-cell embryonic human zygote). That is, upon fertilization, parts of human beings have actually been transformed into something very different from what they were before; they have been changed into a single, whole human being. During the process of fertilization, the sperm and the oocyte cease to exist as such, and a new human being is produced.......

This new single-cell human being immediately produces specifically human proteins and enzymes11 (not carrot or frog enzymes and proteins), and genetically directs his/her own growth and development. (In fact, this genetic growth and development has been proven not to be directed by the mother.)12 Finally, this new human being the single-cell human zygote is biologically an individual, a living organism an individual member of the human species. Quoting Larsen:

"... We begin our description of the developing human with the formation and differentiation of the male and female sex cells or gametes, which will unite at fertilization to initiate the embryonic development of a new individual."
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https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/wdhbb.html
 
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