Koch study: medicare for all saves money

Teflon Don said:
LOL

Yeah that’s it. Couldn’t be anything to do with your ideology

Cuba
Soviet Union
North Korea

All failed
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The biggest chunk of the healthcare dollar is spent on seniors and premature babies.. Young families and working adults don't use but about 30%of it.

Cuba has great, well-trained doctors.

Medical education in the US costs 10-15 times more than anywhere else yet they do extremely well when they take the ECFMG.
 
Ralph said:
Of course.....as always, YOU PAY FOR IT with OP....other peoples money. What part of FREE SHIT is actually ever FREE? As was pointed out......why not implement YOUR PLAN to pay off the debt you now owe...when that works as YOU PLANNED...then we can talk about more FREE SHIT. :palm:
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Did you pay payroll taxes?
 
kudzu said:
The biggest chunk of the healthcare dollar is spent on seniors and premature babies.. Young families and working adults don't use but about 30%of it.

Cuba has great, well-trained doctors.

Medical education in the US costs 10-15 times more than anywhere else yet they do extremely well when they take the ECFMG.
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So instead of universal healthcare we kill seniors at 67 and abort all babies?

The liberal rapture
 
Ralph said:
as Mr. Reagan once said, "The greatest social tool is a vibrant economy"....I hear that we have more jobs than workers now. Yet the Bitching continues. I guess some simply will not work.
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1. We don't have a vibrant economy. Trump's Q2 2018 GDP was bolstered by firms rushing to get exports out before the tariffs, and Obama had four quarters with higher growth as recently as 2014. Once those tariffs start, exports will drop like a rock and prices will rise - in fact, they already have! And Q1 2018 GDP growth was down 0.7% from Q4 2017.

2. If we have a labor shortage, then that means wages would have risen. But the opposite has happened. Real wages have declined for most workers because of the tax cut-fueled inflation, rising gas prices, and rising health care costs.

3. The greatest social tool is JUSTICE, and we are going to get that justice - it's already started with Manafort and will eventually go all the way up to Trump. Then that justice will be brought down to people like you, who have acted as (willing) accomplices to Russia by spamming social media with propaganda.
 
Ralph said:
Of course.....as always, YOU PAY FOR IT with OP....other peoples money
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Everyone who draws a paycheck pays 2.9% of that to the system. It's literally the first part of the plan. For some reason you don't understand that. I think you're deliberately misunderstanding it because you're inherently a dishonest person.
 
Ralph said:
Owhy not implement YOUR PLAN to pay off the debt you now ow
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Let's talk about that debt for a second because most if it is your Bush Tax Cuts, your Russia Tax Cut, your War on Terror.

All that spending was not paid for and you have the nerve to screech about debt today?

Fuck outta here with that weak sauce, junior.
 
kudzu said:
Did you pay payroll taxes?
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Of course....every citizen realizes THE THEFT of BIG BROTHER. That's the point......there is no honor in taking money earned by others and spending it...when there is an OUTSTANDING DEBT of every US citizen that has PAYROLL TAXES taken ...that amounts to about 400K per citizen owed for the national debt...right now. You know what moral characteristic is granted to such people? They are called Dead beats
 
LV426 said:
1. We don't have a vibrant economy. Trump's Q2 2018 GDP was bolstered by firms rushing to get exports out before the tariffs, and Obama had four quarters with higher growth as recently as 2014. Once those tariffs start, exports will drop like a rock and prices will rise - in fact, they already have! And Q1 2018 GDP growth was down 0.7% from Q4 2017.

2. If we have a labor shortage, then that means wages would have risen. But the opposite has happened. Real wages have declined for most workers because of the tax cut-fueled inflation, rising gas prices, and rising health care costs.

3. The greatest social tool is JUSTICE, and we are going to get that justice - it's already started with Manafort and will eventually go all the way up to Trump. Then that justice will be brought down to people like you, who have acted as (willing) accomplices to Russia by spamming social media with propaganda.
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Yet....you want to spend 33 Trillion more.....in such an awful economy? Really? :laugh: All I pointed out was the simple logic.....IF YOU CAN'T PAY YOUR CURRENT BILLS (over 20 Trillion national debt, about 400k per citizen)….what makes you ASSUME you can pay for the expenditure of 33 Trillion more? There is nothing logical or reasonable about your Cloward and Piven anarchy.
 
Ralph said:
Of course....every citizen realizes THE THEFT of BIG BROTHER. That's the point......there is no honor in taking money earned by others and spending it...when there is an OUTSTANDING DEBT of every US citizen that has PAYROLL TAXES taken ...that amounts to about 400K per citizen owed for the national debt...right now. You know what moral characteristic is granted to such people? They are called Dead beats
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Payroll taxes aren't theft. Do you hate America? Where could you go and not pay taxes?
 
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