Liberals can’t be Christians

Jarod said:
From what I can tell about Jesus he was aggressively anti-political, but his attitudes and teachings were very liberal. Although abortion was common in his time, he never mentioned it.
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That's a lie.

You are attempting to rewrite history to support your love of abortion. In Sanhedrin society, ONLY prostitutes would seek to end a pregnancy. Prostitutes were typically stoned to death.

He saved a woman being stoned for adulatory and sent the crowd away in shame. He was very much against vengeance. Hung out with an unemployed group of men, fed the poor and never tried to force himself on anyone.

He didn’t carry a weapon and didn’t believe in self defense.
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His men were all armed - in fact Peter cut the ear off of a temple guard when they came to arrest Jesus.

{10 Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?}

You just make shit up that you think will promote the neo-fascist agenda of your Reich.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Bullshit. I just pointed out her utter hypocrisy. The fact is the vast majority of Christs teachings are liberal in nature. Do unto others, do good works, be good stewards to the land, help those who are less fortunate, show compassion for those who suffer, etc,.

These basic liberal Christian concepts are literally repugnant to those on the far right as they sure as hell don’t practice them. Oh you might occasionally show compassion to a fetus but once it’s born it’s phhhlllbbt fuck them.

The best indicator of their hypocrisy is that the far right evangelicals have the highest rates of divorce and the highest conviction rates for white collar crimes, the highest conviction rates for child abuse, and the highest rates of drug and alcohol abuse. Please explain that?
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You pointed out nothing.

You went on a bigoted rant fueled by your hatred of Christians. You addressed no points, you just scream your hatred and bigotry.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
That's a lie.

You are attempting to rewrite history to support your love of abortion. In Sanhedrin society, ONLY prostitutes would seek to end a pregnancy. Prostitutes were typically stoned to death.



His men were all armed - in fact Peter cut the ear off of a temple guard when they came to arrest Jesus.

{10 Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?}

You just make shit up that you think will promote the neo-fascist agenda of your Reich.
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I said Jesus was unarmed, and considering how he admonished Peter, he didn’t believe in such actions. When they came to kill Jesus he did not let his people fight.
 
Jarod said:
I said Jesus was unarmed, and considering how he admonished Peter, he didn’t believe in such actions. When they came to kill Jesus he did not let his people fight.
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He did not admonish Peter for defending - merely for interfering in the plan.

The Jesus of Luke and John was surrounded by a cadre of armed men.

You make shit up that you think will promote the agenda of your party - you have no concern for facts.

AND Jesus himself used weapons.

John 2:15
{And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;}



 
Uncensored2008 said:
He did not admonish Peter for defending - merely for interfering in the plan.

The Jesus of Luke and John was surrounded by a cadre of armed men.

You make shit up that you think will promote the agenda of your party - you have no concern for facts.

AND Jesus himself used weapons.

John 2:15
{And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;}
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Not in self-defense, he never acted in self-defense. And while Peter was armed in one story that does not mean he was surrounded by a cadre alarmed men. Jesus clearly did not believe in self-defense.
 
I love it when Christians think they can tell other Christians that they aren't, or can't be, Christian. That's totally a "Jesus" thing to do. Jesus was all about excluding people. ;)
 
Uncensored2008 said:
The issue is that the Nazi democrats demand that Homosexuals have rights FAR beyond what the normal people have. The party of Stalin demands that all bow and submit to the trannies. That all must be accomplices to the delusion that a man can decide to be a woman.

I realize that you, like all Marxists, are staunchly anti-science, yet the "Magic Vagina" myth, that somehow the birth canal transmogrifies a blob of inanimate flesh into a baby is a level of ignorance that makes it impossible to treat you as if your were a sentient being. Throughout all of human history there have been those who wanted to kill others they found inconvenient. You are not unique. You, like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and so many others, seek to dehumanize your victim to justify the atrocity you promote.

You're nothing special, just run of the mill evil.
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What rights are those? LET'S HEAR YOU COME UP WITH AN EXAMPLE!
 
ZenMode said:
I love it when Christians think they can tell other Christians that they aren't, or can't be, Christian. That's totally a "Jesus" thing to do. Jesus was all about excluding people. ;)
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I love identifying the range of JPP's educated, sane people vs. the stupid and/or mentally ill members through observing member's posts over time. :thup:
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Which commands?
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Matthew 26, 26:52: "Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."


For someone who wants to talk about Christianity as if he knows what it is you sure don't seem familiar with the New Testament.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
I have degrees in both history and political science actually.

And I never said liberalism changed, I said the meaning of it in America has.
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And I said you’re wrong. The evidence is clear and abundant that the opposite has occurred. Neo-liberals classify themselves as “conservatives”.
 
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