WHATABOUTISM on full display here.
You KGB stooge.
Go drink some piss-water and fuck a yak, Russkie.
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WHATABOUTISM on full display here.
You KGB stooge.
Go drink some piss-water and fuck a yak, Russkie.
Firstly, you weren't being specific when you talked about Benghazi. That was no accident, either. You were being deliberately vague because that's how propagandists work; you say vague things then wiggle around the definition later on to suit your narrative.
Chump move, Boris.
So here's another example of you employing Russian Active Measures!
You're making this so easy for me.
Obama didn't say "Libya was his worse (sic) mistake", he said not planning for the aftermath of Gaddafi's deposing was the big mistake. You even posted a link where the first sentence of the link literally says he thought the biggest mistake was not planning for the aftermath, not that he deposed Gaddafi.
So what you did was lie about what Obama said in order to craft a false narrative that blames him for the civilian deaths caused by Gaddafi's indiscriminate bombing -er,um shelling- of civilians in rebel-controlled areas.
That's a Russian Active Measure.
You're a Russian, aren't you?
Key words: WINNING PA. STFU, seriously.
I instructed you on the Siege of Misrata -that nature of a seige is that civiliains do die - once again you fail to mention the NTC was in that seige
you called it "bombing" i corrected your mistake to "shelling" (Qadafi could not put up any air force with NATO around.
you don't even understand me correcting your misnomer is not "goal post shifting".
You are reliant on this singularity,and can't even get that correct -you have failed every aspect of this discussion .
read the NYTimes link - you need a much larger perspective to discuss this
Please stop engaging this pathological liar and allowing him to troll this thread way off topic like he usually does. You're bigger than this.
Now you're just resorting to spamming the board with random links to try and save face.
Fact is, you said something wrong (Gaddafi didn't kill civilians), then said something else wrong (He wasn't indiscriminately attacking when he was), then lied about what Obama said (his biggest regret was not deposing Gaddafi, but rather not having a coherent plan for the aftermath), all so you could push your Russian propaganda on an anonymous message board.
Delete your account, troll.
Exactly. Because he's a Russian asset. Russian propagandists have to blame Obama just to make themselves look less monstrous.
NO IT WASN'T YOU LYING RUSSIAN STOOGE:
France and Britain Lead Military Push on Libya
MARCH 18, 2011
France and Britain continued to press their hawkish position on Libya on Friday, saying they intend to take the lead in enforcing a no-flight zone.
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/19/world/africa/19europe.html
Delete your account, troll.
Conflating is what you did when you first said Gaddafi didn't kill civilians, then changed your position to say he did, but that they were "collateral damage". Then you also tried to say that shelling population centers wasn't indiscriminate when that's the very point of shelling population centers, which is what both Gaddafi did and Assad continues to do.
You're here pushing a pro-Russia position.
You're not even an American, are you?
Obama isn't going to say his POLICY is a mistake -he shifts the blame to Cameron instead-
and if you had ANY CLUES you'd understand it was impossible for western nationbuilding after the war
because Libya was a failed state run by militia rule.
Obama shifted the blame. It was his worse mistake. It turned the Maghreb into a full link terrorsits groups.
I gotta run. you are boring, pendantic,and grossly uninformed on this. read the link
You haven't seen anything yet.
Not only does he blame President Obama, but he says Hilary and Susan Rice talked President Obama into doing it. Airgo.......he can blame all 3 of them.......LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Funniest shit I ever heard.
You said that Gaddafi didn't kill civilians. So that means you thought all the people Gaddafi killed weren't civilians. Then when I gave you a couple of links that were hard for you to deny, you suddenly changed your position to say that civilians were killed, but that they were "collateral damage". Then you tried to make a distinction without difference between bombing and shelling when it came to indiscriminate attacks on the civilian population centers. But here's the thing; shelling is indiscriminate, bombing isn't (unless you're talking about carpet bombing).
So you got caught trying to spin a web of Russian-backed propaganda, and I want to know why?
This always happens when your getting you're ass kicked.
All them Libya post shattered in a matter of minutes.........LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO at you!
So this is another goalpost shift.
So now you're saying that NTC was the focus of Gaddafi's "siege" of Misrata; a siege where Gaddafi shelled the population center indiscriminately, killing thousands. If Gaddafi wasn't trying to kill civilians, then he wouldn't have shelled the city indiscriminately and kill thousands of them.
So how is this helping your argument? It's not. It's showing that Gaddafi really didn't care about civilian casualties because he thought anyone residing in opposition-controlled territory was in fact the opposition. It's exactly the same justification Assad uses in Syria every day.
Funny how you're defending it, because your position and Russia's position on it are exactly the same. Almost as if...they're coordinated.
Great, so you ended up making a distinction that ends up hurting your case; because shelling is indiscriminate. So Gaddafi was indiscriminately shelling his own people to try and kill the opposition, which he considered anyone who resided in opposition-controlled territories.
I can smell the stink of your vodka from here, Vasily.
Sure they are.
62% disapproval rating by independents. Low 40% overall.
Where's the fucking flocking?
Russians don't care about our role in Libya, they are too busy cultivating the existing governments.
NATO destroys Libya. Russia gives them expertise and money to rebuild, in exchange for future influence.
Their soft power is much more effective there then our war.
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*Yawn* the rest of your dribbling is discussing the same old point. Which clearly shows you are completely lacking understanding Libyan war 2011, and the new Libyan civil war of 2014.
It's akin to arguing with a teenage girl with you .. "but you said" over and over without advancing any ideas.
I'll do it for you. here's the Big Idea:
1 the Libyan war was built on a pack of lies, and spread internationally by Hillary.
2.It resulted in a failed terrorist state to this day.
3. Qadafi was not bombing civilian in Bengazi as claimed. Nor did he target civilians in the ensuing civil war.
now it's you turn for more inane "points" *yawn again*