Museum of Atheism

[Mason Michaels]

Maybe we need more people like Socrates.

Guys like Socrates come along one in a thousand years.

 

[Mason Michaels]

So you admit, sometimes religion is an obstacle to freedom.

The Russian Orthodox church conspired with the tsar and Russian nobility to keep 80 million Russians in a state of abject serfdom for centuries.

So while I think the Soviet atheist museums were distasteful and an affront to civilized pluralism, at another level I can understand some of the hostility to the traditional Orthodox church

Never confuse organized religion with what God is up to!
Quite the opposite.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I can respect that.

Having had christian, Muslim, Jewish, and atheist friends throughout my life, there has never been a problem I have observed of anyone telling anyone else what to believe.

In my opinion, we do not learn any moral lessons from history, without confronting some of it's darkest chapters.

Whether that includes the Spanish inquisition.

Or the anti-religious excesses of Soviet state atheism.

I do not think free thinking and contemplative persons get defensive about any of it (not saying you did)

It's important to learn from both the mistakes and successes of the past in order to learn how best to do things in the present.

George Santayana talked about that in his teachings. He also said “Only the dead have seen the end of war.” The good news is that those wars are becoming less deadly compared to the ones of the past.

 

[Mason Michaels]

Likewise, the only reason to be religious is to join a church.

That's true in the secular world.
Not the case with true believers

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Never confuse organized religion with what God is up to!
Quite the opposite.

Is that what God told you?

 

[BidenPresident]

That's true in the secular world.
Not the case with true believers

It is good we have you to tell us what God wants.

 

[Mason Michaels]

You don't know me at all! I voted for Donald trump because he was the alternative to godless communism!
Tell me someone I have judged according to anything but their character!

Translation: Trump used fear of the Pink boggie man to get your vote

 

[Mason Michaels]

Gave many. But I will repeat.

Over my life many strangers have approached me to tell me I must be a Christian and accept Jesus.

As a child I was forced to declared my acceptance of Jesus.

That's the problem I see a lot.
I got lucky,never went near a church growing up,had zero religious experience or training.
When I had an Epiphany at 26.

 

[BidenPresident]

That's the problem I see a lot.
I got lucky,never went near a church growing up,had zero religious experience or training.
When I had an Epiphany at 26.

yes, I was about 26 when I realized it was all bullshit.

 

[Mason Michaels]

You must be a born again believer in Christ, who has confessed Jesus as Lord, confessed your sins, and repented, to get to heaven!

One can't be forced to accept Jesus!

Jesus wouldn't force you.
But many fake Christians would!

 

[Mason Michaels]

"If you have a moral code, at it's heart it came from the western religious tradition. Specifically, the New Testament, Judaism, and possibly in an indirect way Islam."

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ...

At your core, you actually believe this.

I think most of us were born knowing right from wrong.

 

[Mason Michaels]

I support Human Pleasure.

Nazis got pleasure killing Jews!
Do you support that?

 

[Mason Michaels]

Yes. Believers think repeating dogma makes them smart.

Define "Dogma".

 

[BidenPresident]

Define "Dogma".

Same as every dictionary defines it.

 

[Mason Michaels]

Is that what God told you?

I'm pretty sure,I told you countless times I deal with the Holy Spirit, not with any organized religion

 

[Mason Michaels]

It is good we have you to tell us what God wants.

Obviously you've been misinformed!
I'm not remotely a Shepherd! Quite the opposite!

 

[BidenPresident]

Obviously you've been misinformed!
I'm not remotely a Shepherd! Quite the opposite!

Oh good. Then you will never be telling people what they should believe.

 

[Mason Michaels]

yes, I was about 26 when I realized it was all bullshit.

No at 26years you realized organized religion didn't bring you to God.

 

[Mason Michaels]

Same as every dictionary defines it.

So you used a word you can't define.

 

[BidenPresident]

So you used a word you can't define.

So you don't know how to use a dictionary.