moon
Satire for Sanity
Are you still ignoring your gross misdemeanor , maggot ? The Eiffel Tower is the least of your worries;
Advocating brutal murder doesn't fit with decent political discussion.
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Are you still ignoring your gross misdemeanor , maggot ? The Eiffel Tower is the least of your worries;
Advocating brutal murder doesn't fit with decent political discussion.
T. A. Gardner
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Trust me, I can spin moon up faster than a jet engine on this.
T. A. Gardner
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This tells you all you need to know about Israel v. Palestine...
Tel Aviv, Israel
Gaza Strip, Palestinian Territories
Tel Aviv, Israel
Gaza Strip, Palestinian Territories
You are a buffoon. Ask the people of France if they like having electricity then go to Germany.
moon
Satire for Sanity
The fool is you. Germany had cheap Russian gas and no nuclear worries- until establishment Russophobes , such as you, fucked it up for them.
France, you may have noticed, is on the verge of fresh revolutions on a monthly basis.
Saint Guinefort
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You do realize that Palestine looks like that in no small part due to constrictions put on the people crowded into those small chunks of land and walled in by the Israelis, right?
I'm not saying the Israelis don't have plenty of reason to distrust the Palestinians, but it's kind of like what the Warsaw Ghetto probably looked like compared to greater Warsaw back in the 1940's.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Says the establishment drone that applauds dumping its filth on the Mexicans.
https://www.epa.gov/radtown/radioactive-waste
Go chaw some uranium.
T. A. Gardner
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It looks like that because the Palestinians are ruled by terrorists and what amounts to organized criminal gangs. It looks like that because rather than lifting themselves up and getting on with their lives, the Palestinians are far more interested in revenge and war against Israel. A good indicator of things is that Egypt and Jordan keep their borders closed to Palestinians too.
Palestine is its own worst enemy.
T. A. Gardner
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An utterly irrelevant red herring in the form of a non sequitur.
One of the major problems is that the Palestinians do not have a government that represents all of them.
In Gaza, it's Hamas.
In Jerusalem, it's the Palestinian Authority.
In the West Bank, it's Fatah.
It's not reasonable to expect the Israelis to engage in negotiations with the Palestinians when the Palestinians lack a central authority which can negotiate.
Until that happens, nothing is going to change on either side.
Saint Guinefort
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I have little doubt the Palestinian Authority has corruption and is probably pretty bad at running their "country". But it is irrational to assume that Israel isn't partially responsible for this.
You mean despite embargoes and economic sanctions put on them by Israel and walling them off from opportunities outside of their "ghetto"?
If you demonize people and make up a lie about them on the whole of course it is easy to justify treating them badly or just watching them live in squalid conditions.
The Palestinians have been a political football among the Arab states since 1948. The Arab states are in part responsible for the state of the Palestinians. They were a useful tool to use against the Israelis.
If you assume that is the whole of the truth you can enjoy an eternity of the same as we've had.
If you actually give a flying fuck about ANY of these people (Israeli and Palestinian) you might look at it more, shall we say, subtly?
There's a LOT more to all of this than just your cartoon view which was fed to you by Right Wing pundits.
moon
Satire for Sanity
An establishment drone that considers dumping his nuclear waste on Mexicans to be ' irrelevant '.
He's here all week folks.
moon
Satire for Sanity
They had elections. Hamas won a landslide so the US/Israel backed a coup. Abbas has been the illegitimate ' president ' ever since.
The Israelis will not allow fresh elections because they know full well that Hamas would win again.
Kinda makes your contribution look a tad thin, don't it.
Summed up, the Germans screwed themselves, France on the other hand kept 70% of their nuclear plants running.
T. A. Gardner
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Well, the problem is on the Palestinian's side.
Saint Guinefort
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It's got to be a lot easier navigating life when you don't understand ANYTHING about history.
Hamas won IN GAZA, but it didn't win in E. Jerusalem or the West Bank.
I want nothing more than for the Israelis to leave the WB and Gaza, but exactly who are they supposed to negotiate with? Who has the power? It's unclear.
Hamas may win Gaza, but it won't win E. Jerusalem or the West Bank.
So unless Gaza wants to be its own independent state, the Palestinians need to come together and designate a representative for peace negotiations.
moon
Satire for Sanity
The Germans were not expecting an insane US president with a remit to destroy Russo/EU relations.
They will reforge ties with Russia when Biden's war is concluded- but they'll have to guard the pipelines to prevent the mad old fucker from destroying them again.
The French will want Russian gas too.
Yes, definitely right now it is.
But another question is; would Israel act in good faith during the negotiations? That is also unclear.
Russia invades Ukraine using the same justifications Israel did for maintaining control of the WB and Gaza (historical blah blah)...and somehow that's Biden's war????