OBAMA SPEECH IN FULL: A MORE PERFECT UNION

I saw a good explanation by obama in a one on one interview on PBS last night.
You people should watch more PBS.
 
Damocles said:
BS, Rummy was clearly also a personal friend. Bush holds his pals close. Constantly. Dude shows more loyalty than any President before.

It isn't always a good thing to keep your friends around.
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LOL, okay Damo. You've gone into full blown bush defense mode.

If want to think that Rummy and Dubya were great pals, and dear friends, go right ahead.

I doubt Bush ever even met rumsfeld, until Cheney or whoever, suggested him for the job of Sec Def in 2001. Rummy was a political appointtee.
 
He did a good job of showing that a few you tube clips is not the measure of a man, and talking about both Wright & the church's background.

I remember a popular t-shirt phrase from awhile back..."It's a black thing; you wouldn't understand." Obama's speech was a real call to white America to, at the very least, stop for a second to consider the black experience in America, and try to understand that it is different from their own.
 
Chapdog said:
listening now to it on cnn feed. Its pretty good. Makes sense to me

I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.


I like how hes brining the truth out. something we all like to pretend doesn't exist.. we all have family members who say questionable things.
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My brothers call Obama the n word, so I know that I have them.
 
Cypress said:
Well, I'm digging it that he stuck by his friend. That he's not ditching him. That says something about his character.

When one of Bush's friends goes astray, Bush pretends like he never even really knew the guy. Kenny Boy Lay, for example.
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Who?
 
Onceler said:
He did a good job of showing that a few you tube clips is not the measure of a man, and talking about both Wright & the church's background.

I remember a popular t-shirt phrase from awhile back..."It's a black thing; you wouldn't understand." Obama's speech was a real call to white America to, at the very least, stop for a second to consider the black experience in America, and try to understand that it is different from their own.
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Those shirts were big back when I was in high school. A lot of kids wore them. The emblem with Africa hanging around the neck was another popular accessory.
 
Desh said:
If that speach does not inspire the American puplic there is no hope for this country.

Im in tears. This man is exactly what this country needs this moment in time.

I have not been this inspired by a politician in my entire life.
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I’m so bummed I couldn’t watch it! I was seriously going to take half a day from work to watch it, and come in really late. But I just took two days off for winter solider. I’m out more than I’m here lately. But I’m still bummed about this.
 
Cypress said:
LOL, okay Damo. You've gone into full blown bush defense mode.

If want to think that Rummy and Dubya were great pals, and dear friends, go right ahead.

I doubt Bush ever even met rumsfeld, until Cheney or whoever, suggested him for the job of Sec Def in 2001. Rummy was a political appointtee.
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No, what I have done is simply pointed out the dichotomy of your statement.

He's so loyal it's great! Look what Bush did to Lay! Forgetting all those times Bush was criticized for being too loyal to his friends and employees.
 
Darla said:
I’m so bummed I couldn’t watch it! I was seriously going to take half a day from work to watch it, and come in really late. But I just took two days off for winter solider. I’m out more than I’m here lately. But I’m still bummed about this.
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I didnt eve watch it yet I was crying after just reading it here.

I just hope the American people are not so tainted with hate that they will refuse to listen to the message.
 
Desh said:
I didnt eve watch it yet I was crying after just reading it here.

I just hope the American people are not so tainted with hate that they will refuse to listen to the message.
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many will be Desh both because of party and race.
I just hope we have enough smart Americans left.
 
Onceler said:
He did a good job of showing that a few you tube clips is not the measure of a man, and talking about both Wright & the church's background.

I remember a popular t-shirt phrase from awhile back..."It's a black thing; you wouldn't understand." Obama's speech was a real call to white America to, at the very least, stop for a second to consider the black experience in America, and try to understand that it is different from their own.
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I'm looking forward to seeing this speech. I'm really glad he didn't throw the pastor overboard. That's cool.
 
Damocles said:
No, what I have done is simply pointed out the dichotomy of your statement.

He's so loyal it's great! Look what Bush did to Lay! Forgetting all those times Bush was criticized for being too loyal to his friends and employees.
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Nah, that’s not what he’s criticized for. He’s comes under criticism not for being “too loyal to his friends” – I personally believe he is loyal to no one but his own stinky butt – he comes under criticism for valuing loyalty on the part of others towards himself to mafia-like levels. If you will do anything for W, he’ll hire you. It’s a fine distinction but an important one. It’s all about him, it’s not about his “friends” of which as far as I know, he really has none.
 
Darla said:
Nah, that’s not what he’s criticized for. He’s comes under criticism not for being “too loyal to his friends” – I personally believe he is loyal to no one but his own stinky butt – he comes under criticism for valuing loyalty on the part of others towards himself to mafia-like levels. If you will do anything for W, he’ll hire you. It’s a fine distinction but an important one. It’s all about him, it’s not about his “friends” of which as far as I know, he really has none.
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Total Rubbish. He definitely has been criticized for being too loyal. You just don't want to admit his example sucked.
 
Damocles said:
No, what I have done is simply pointed out the dichotomy of your statement.

He's so loyal it's great! Look what Bush did to Lay! Forgetting all those times Bush was criticized for being too loyal to his friends and employees.
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Loyalty is the wrong word. Fealty is more appropriate. Bush rewards fealty. Loyalty has got nothing to do with it.
 
uscitizen said:
many will be Desh both because of party and race.
I just hope we have enough smart Americans left.
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Every word of it was the truth of what we go through and he understood all the emotions behind every position.

I think this country may have a chance to be something again if we dont refuse this message of oneness and hope.

We are doomed to hate each other right out of a country soon. We are on the edge and if we dont step back this country will become a shell of our former selves.
 
Damocles said:
No, what I have done is simply pointed out the dichotomy of your statement.

He's so loyal it's great! Look what Bush did to Lay! Forgetting all those times Bush was criticized for being too loyal to his friends and employees.
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I already said you can believe what you want.

I don't believe for a second, that bush is close, personal, dear friends with Rummy, or most any political appointee. I think Bush does what Bush thinks is in his best interest politically. I don't think it has anything to do with deep personal bonds of friendship. In fact, I think Bush is a psychopath, incapable of normal, unbreakable human empathy and unwavering friendship.
 
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