Once you eliminate the impossible...

I find it interesting, how willing and eager atheists are to prove that God doesn't exist. It's almost like they are personally offended by the mere possibility of His existence.
 
The Ugly Truth said:
Another pathetic attempt at deflection. We're discussing the origin of the physical universe. Science says that something physical cannot create itself. That means it was created. Can you refute this?
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Do you believe God created the world as described in Genesis?
 
The Ugly Truth said:
Let's get back on topic. Is it possible for something physical to create itself? Does anyone believe this is possible? Science says it's impossible, yet they deny a Creator. There are only two options here. The universe created itself, or someone created it. The first one has been ruled out by science.
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Your question only makes sense...IF THE UNIVERSE WAS CREATED.

YOU do not know if it was created or not. Neither does any scientist who has ever lived on this planet.

This thing that we humans refer to as "the universe" appears to be the result of a Big Bang event...but no scientist knows what existed before the Big Bang...and no scientist knows if THE UNIVERSE is only the thing we humans refer to as "the universe."

Stop the crap, Ugly.

IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE UNIVERSE ALWAYS EXISTED...THAT IT DID NOT HAVE A BEGINNING...AND WILL NOT HAVE AN END.

You want to insist that it was "created" so that you can interject a "creator" (which I am sure will be that god of yours).

BUT IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN CREATED.

IT MAY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.
 
The Ugly Truth said:
Another pathetic attempt at deflection. We're discussing the origin of the physical universe. Science says that something physical cannot create itself. That means it was created. Can you refute this?
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NO ONE CLAIMS MATTER CREATED ITS SELF


you keep repeating this evil lie


it proves you are evil


and it shames your religion


how is being a liar following Jesus
 
The Ugly Truth said:
I find it interesting, how willing and eager atheists are to prove that God doesn't exist. It's almost like they are personally offended by the mere possibility of His existence.
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I haven't seen anyone here attempt to prove "God" doesn't exist.

Where do you get this crap from?
 
IT is a FACT that there is no proof of the existence of gods or monsters


pretending there is is a lie


Its faith


trying to lie and pretend there is proof makes one a liar


liars are not following the teachings of Jesus


If this person spent more time reading the teachings of Jesus they would not be so completely lie and hate filled
 
it is merely the reality of existence

it is what has always existed

it recombines and then evolves constantly
 
Frank Apisa said:
Your question only makes sense...IF THE UNIVERSE WAS CREATED.

YOU do not know if it was created or not. Neither does any scientist who has ever lived on this planet.

This thing that we humans refer to as "the universe" appears to be the result of a Big Bang event...but no scientist knows what existed before the Big Bang...and no scientist knows if THE UNIVERSE is only the thing we humans refer to as "the universe."

Stop the crap, Ugly.

IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE UNIVERSE ALWAYS EXISTED...THAT IT DID NOT HAVE A BEGINNING...AND WILL NOT HAVE AN END.

You want to insist that it was "created" so that you can interject a "creator" (which I am sure will be that god of yours).

BUT IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN CREATED.

IT MAY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.
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The universe had a beginning. It's often referred to as the big bang. It is impossible for something to create itself. You have yet to refute these facts. All you have is maybe this, and perhaps that.
 
Frank Apisa said:
If you god can be something without a "beginning"...why can THE UNIVERSE not be something without a beginning?

Talk about amusement...listening to theists on the Internet spouting their nonsense is hilarious.
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exactly



to insert something that there is no proof of its existence to be the thing that has just always existed is silly

matter has always existed


makes much more sense than saying something we cant prove exists always existed and then on a whim created everything else


Matter is just the nature of reality and has always existed


a recombination of matter and the energy it holds created life which evolved into man who then created the concept on God
 
The Ugly Truth said:
Gee. I thought you atheists believed in science. Science says it's impossible. Are you anti science?
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Scientists don't KNOW.. That's why the Big Bang Theory is a theory.

Does that mean they SHOULD believe bronze age mythology borrowed from Sumer and Egypt?
 
evince said:
exactly



to insert something that there is no proof of its existence to be the thing that has just always existed is silly

matter has always existed


makes much more sense than saying something we cant prove exists always existed and then on a whim created everything else


Matter is just the nature of reality and has always existed


a recombination of matter and the energy it holds created life which evolved into man who then created the concept on God
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That's like declaring that you are an "atheist".....no? When the term Atheist is latin for AGAINST THEISM or the divine......just how can you be against something that according to you DOES NOT EXIST? :laugh:

What all the idiot seculars are missing.........is the 800 lb Gorilla in the middle of the room. Truth can be established via the use of logic and deductive reasoning....i.e., people are sent to prison every day based upon these simple truths established by the PRIMA FACIE evidences introduced when no objective evidence could be presented to make null and void these truth's that come about by applying reason and logic.....prima facie truths that stand beyond the reason of any sane person to doubt otherwise....unless objective testable evidence proves these logical truths invalid.

Such evidence is used to conclude truth everyday in the court rooms across the Untied States and the world.
 
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