Idiot: HRC would have to be the most powerful Sec/State in history to be the "architect" of the destruction of a soveriegn state. You fucking idiot.
This has been explained to you repeatedly, and by better men than me.
She was at best a pawn you fucking looper.
The POTUS himself already took responsibility for the US part. Not that it matters, Libya was consumed by civil war at the time, the French were going to get theirs and not least of all, the Central bankers were done with the freedom and standard of living the peasants of Libya enjoyed.
We have covered all this in great detail. Never once have you proven your spurious claims of the all powerful Sec/State HRC.
It is your delusion only. Your retarded delusion that Arab Spring would end differently in Libya than in other Arab countries.
Not my fault that you are myopic with the comprehension level of a young child.
Further I am not wrong about the article, Wwbb is.
You privided no proof otherwise, fool.
Look at the quitws you provided retard.
You were stupid enough to provide Jefferson's qualifiier
"If they pick up the hatchet" , they did not, they were fighting their expulsion in courts,
and Adams' fierce insistentence that the government abide by treaties was in direct opposition to Jackson's Indian Removal Act, which itself called for voluntary acceptance of the land swaps.by the indians yet devolved into forced death marches wich killed tens of thousands of native Americans, the very action that Jackson purportedly sought to avoid.
The entire exercise was promulgated by slave owners seeking to expand their plantation holdings, another fact you seem desperate to avoid, hence by it's very nature any appologistic act or article with reference to the Indian Removal Act or the Trail of tears is racist to the core but clearly as a lifelong southerner facts of your region's dishonroable past sail miles above your reasoning ability.
The more I back you into a corner with the truth the more childish your lashing out becomes.
The truth hurts doesn't it.
Hang your head in shame racist mysogynistic old man.
You have been outed.
Obviously you can't play chess - pawns are used by the more powerful for their own ends and means.
who "used" HRC? The Libyan rebels lied to her (Jabril in Paris), and she was stupid enough to buy into the "impending humanitarian disaster"
where Qaddafi was supposed to bomb Bengazi -killing civilians with the NTC.
The whole house of cards was built on that lie. Yet Qaddafi never bombed any civilians on his counter-offensive. Why suddenly bomb Bengazi then?
Clinton saw what she wanted to see. She took the No Fly zone and demanded intervention.
You have been exposed to the "tic toc on Libya" State Dept. memo -as usual you are too stupid to connect the dots.
Here it is again: rwed the bolded parts. she is instrumental for regime change, she makes removing Qaddafi the political objective (etc)
From: Hillary Clinton To: Oscar Flores Date: 2011-09-02 10:28 Subject: TICK TOCK ON LIBYA
From: Jake Sullivan
Sant: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:40 PM
To: Mills, Cheryl D; Nuiand, Victoria J
Subject: tidc todc on Libya
this is basically off the top of my head, with a few consultations of my notes. but
it shows S'
leadership/ownership/stewardship of this country's libya policy from start to finish, let me know what you
think. toria, who else might be able to add to this?
Secretary Clinton's leadership on Libya
HRC has been a critical voice on Libya in administration deliberations, at NATO, and in contact group
meetings — as well as the public face of the U.S. effort in Libya.
She was instrumental in securing the
authorization, building the coalition, and tightening the noose around Qadhafi and his regime.
February 25 — HRC announces the suspension of operations of the Libyan embassy in Washington.
February 26 — HRC directs efforts to evacuate all U.S. embassy personnel from Tripoli and orders the closing of
the embassy.
February 26 HRC made a series of calls to her counterparts to help secure passage of UNSC 1970, which
imposes sanctions on Gaddafi and his family and refers Qadhafi and his cronies to the ICC
February 28 — HRC travels to Geneva, Switzerland for consultations with European partners on Libya. She
gives a major address in which she says: "Colonel Qadhafi and those around him must be held accountable for
these acts, which violate international legal obligations and common decency.
Through their actions, they have
lost the legitimacy to govern. And the people of Libya have made themselves clear: It is time for Qadhafi to go
— now, without further violence or delay." She also works to secure the suspension of Libya from membership
in the Human Rights Council.
Early March — HRC appoints Special Envoy Chris Stevens to be the U.S. representative to Benghazi
March 14 — HRC travels to Paris for the G8 foreign minister's meeting.
She meets with TNC representative
Jibril and consults with her colleagues on further UN Security Council action. She notes that a no-fly zone will
not be adequate.
March 14-16 — HRC participates in a series of high-level video- and teleconferences
She is a leading voice for strong UNSC action and a NA TO civilian
protection mission.
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March 17— HRC secures Russian abstention and Portuguese and African support for UNSC 1973, ensuring that
it passes. 1973 authorizes a no-fly zone over Libya and "all necessary measures" - code for military action - to
protect civilians against Gaddafts army.
March 24 — HRC engages with allies and secures the transition of command and control of the civilian
protection mission to NATO. She announces the transition in a statement.
March 18-30— HRC engages with UAE, Qatar, and Jordan to seek their participation in coalition
operations. Over the course of several days, all three devote aircraft to the mission.
March 19 — HRC travels to Paris to meet with European and Arab leaders to prepare for military action to
protect civilians. That night, the first U.S. air strikes halt the advance of Gaddafi's forces on Benghazi and
target Libya's air defenses.
March 29 — HRC travels to London for a conference on Libya, where she is a driving force behind the creation
of a Contact Group comprising 20-plus countries to coordinate efforts to protect civilians and plan for a post-
Qadhafi Libya. She is instrumental in setting up a rotating chair system to ensure regional buy-in.
April 14— HRC travels to Berlin for NATO meetings.
She is the driving force behind NATO adopting a
communique that calls for Qadhafi's departure as a political objective, and lays out three clear military
objectives: end of attacks and threat of attacks on civilians; the removal of Qadhafi forces from cities they
forcibly entered; and the unfettered provision of humanitarian access.
May 5 — HRC travels to Rome for a Contact Group meeting. The Contact Group establishes a coordination
system and a temporary financial mechanism to funnel money to the TNC.
June 8 — HRC travels to Abu Dhabi for another Contact Group meeting and holds a series of intense discussions
with rebel leaders.
June 12 — HRC travels to Addis for consultations and a speech before the African Union, pressing the case for a
democratic transition in Libya.
July 15 — HRC travels to Istanbul and announces that the U.S. recognizes the TNC as the legitimate government
of Libya. She also secures recognition from the other members of the Contact Group.
Late June — HRC meets with House Democrats and Senate Republicans to persuade them not to de-fund the
Libya operation.
July 16 — HRC sends Feltman, Cretz, and Chollet to Tunis to meet with Qadhafi envoys "to deliver a clear and
firm message that the only way to move forward, is for Qadhafi to step down".
Early August — HRC works to construct a $1.5 billion assets package to be approved by the Security Council
and sent to the TNC. That package is working through its last hurdles.
Early August -- After military chief Abdel Fattah Younes is killed, S sends a personal message to TNC head
Jalil to press for a responsible investigation and a careful and inclusive approach to creating a new executive
council
Early August -- HRC secures written pledges from the TNC to an inclusive, pluralistic democratic
transition. She continues to consult with European and Arab colleagues on the evolving situation.
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