Saudi Arabia freezes Canada trade ties, recalls envoy

kudzu said:
Saudi kings do not permit anyone to kiss their hands..

Were you living in KSA or not?
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I have never lived in Saudi nor would I want to. As an atheist I don't imagine I would be accepted. Not sure what to make about the kissing the hand thing since I was referring to his ass, metaphorically speaking.
 
Gotcha68 said:
I have never lived in Saudi nor would I want to. As an atheist I don't imagine I would be accepted. Not sure what to make about the kissing the hand thing since I was referring to his ass, metaphorically speaking.
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Well now, this just got awkward....
 
Gotcha68 said:
I have never lived in Saudi nor would I want to. As an atheist I don't imagine I would be accepted. Not sure what to make about the kissing the hand thing since I was referring to his ass, metaphorically speaking.
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If you have never lived there what were you talking about?
 
kudzu said:
If you have never lived there what were you talking about?
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Are you of the opinion that one can never learn something about another country/culture etc unless one has actively lived there? I understand living in a place gives you insight that others will never have but you can still learn stuff without stepping foot in a country.

What do you mean what am I talking about? I assumed English was your first language? I apologize for making that assumption.
 
Gotcha68 said:
Are you of the opinion that one can never learn something about another country/culture etc unless one has actively lived there? I understand living in a place gives you insight that others will never have but you can still learn stuff without stepping foot in a country.

What do you mean what am I talking about? I assumed English was your first language? I apologize for making that assumption.
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There isn't much accurate information about KSA because so few of the writers have ever been there and those that have were only there for a week.
 
kudzu said:
Most American expats like living there.
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"Most"? And how did you come to this conclusion? Do you know most of them? I know plenty who hate it but stay for spouses or work. If you can be an expat who likes living in a country where human rights violations take place all around you but you happen to live a bit freer and happier simply because you aren't a native and the same cultural rules might not apply to you at all or as harshly then that makes you willfully blind and a hypocrite if you ever complained about those violations. Why give a country like that your time, effort or money?
 
Gotcha68 said:
"Most"? And how did you come to this conclusion? Do you know most of them? I know plenty who hate it but stay for spouses or work. If you can be an expat who likes living in a country where human rights violations take place all around you but you happen to live a bit freer and happier simply because you aren't a native and the same cultural rules might not apply to you at all or as harshly then that makes you willfully blind and a hypocrite if you ever complained about those violations. Why give a country like that your time, effort or money?
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I go to reunions.. Generally number 800 to a thousand people.. You have to be willfully stupid to have a problem with civil rights in Arabia.

A lot of expats are now third generation. Some of the benefits are education and travel as well as earning an excellent living.
 
kudzu said:
I go to reunions.. Generally number 800 to a thousand people.. You have to be willfully stupid to have a problem with civil rights in Arabia.

A lot of expats are now third generation. Some of the benefits are education and travel as well as earning an excellent living.
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You have to be willfully stupid to have a problem with civil rights in Saudi? Seriously?

So money keeps you quiet? Sad.
 
kudzu said:
I see that you are good at jumping to conclusions.
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Not a conclusion. Your own statement said expats love to live there because of the excellent living. The first statement is yours as you wrote it so..no conclusion jumping there.
 
Gotcha68 said:
Not a conclusion. Your own statement said expats love to live there because of the excellent living. The first statement is yours as you wrote it so..no conclusion jumping there.
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The Saudis are gracious, friendly and hospitable. They value a civil society.. They are concervative and family oriented... If you don't like that go elsewhere.
 
I did see one flogging via cellphone.
It was a caning not a flogging,and it was over quickly and the guy put his shirt back on.
 
moon said:
Saudi Arabia is a filthy rich monarchic nest of degenerates which has the USA by the balls. Canada is, in this instance, setting a moral example.
Will the USA back Canada's stance on human rights ? Haw, haw........haw.
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Saudi Arabia's actions in Yemen are downright criminal, and the way they treat even their own people is frankly gross by any reasonable metric. The fact that they are a close ally of the the U.S.A (receiving tens of billions of dollars of weaponry from them) and were voted onto the human rights/womens' rights councils for the U.N speaks volumes about the leaders of both institutions.

Props to Canada on this one. :hand:
 
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