The Christian left and democratic socialism

Unfortunately that is how I've had to come to view most modern American conservatives.
With your eyes closed from your safe space. You are a total coward and loser; maligning others i all you can do to make yourself feel better .

They are greedy, selfish, lacking in empathy, not generally bright, incapable of nuanced thinking, unable to look ahead into a future that includes anyone other than their kind.
Projecting. I could write a book on you. Surely you realize that you are as stupid as a tree stump. Everything you write about others is really your cry for help.

Most of all they are bigoted, terrified, mean little children.
So you were a bigoted, mean little child just to get attention. Did your parents not love you?

You probably can't quite forgive yourself for your betrayal to Jesus and to your faith just because you were too stupid and gullible to realize that Global Warming is a religion. You totally fell for the line "It's thettled thienth" and stepped all over Jesus as ordered.

Loser.

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Unfortunately that is how I've had to come to view most modern American conservatives. They are greedy, selfish, lacking in empathy, not generally bright, incapable of nuanced thinking, unable to look ahead into a future that includes anyone other than their kind. Most of all they are bigoted, terrified, mean little children.

Speaking of bigots...
 
The United States is unequivocally the top economic power on the planet.

You have not listed one single tangible way you would "modify capitalism" and result in an economic success that works for all members of society. Very telling. You know that you are spewing bullshit.

Of course you have to copy my lexicon and style.

The USA has the most money and most billionaires.

In all global statistical measures of happiness and quality of life, USA ranks well below many of the northern European welfare states
 
Germany, Sweden, Norway, France, Denmark, et al. are unequivocally among the most successful socioeconomic systems in human history.

Many of those countries' citizens are also ranked among the happiest as well.

Some ppl have a hard time understanding that we could do better here. If all you can say is "We're the best country in the world" you leave no room for improvement.
 
Many of those countries' citizens are also ranked among the happiest as well.

Some ppl have a hard time understanding that we could do better here. If all you can say is "We're the best country in the world" you leave no room for improvement.

Too right you are.

That is why I spoke to the concept of success as a socio-economic system. Success of a nation cannot simply be measured by money and economic statistics
 
Too right you are.

That is why I spoke to the concept of success as a socio-economic system. Success of a nation cannot simply be measured by money and economic statistics

I agree. It helps to think of the nation the way you might think of a single individual. You can have great wealth but still be discontent and unhappy. Maybe you have poor health. Maybe you are lonely and suspicious that ppl who try to befriend you are only after your wealth. Maybe you lost someone you love to divorce or to death.

There is always room for improvement whether it's in our personal lives or for the country as a whole. Observing this and pointing it out does not make you a traitor or someone who hates your country, any more than observing that your spouse is unhealthy and helping him/her find ways to feel better means you hate them.
 
Of course you have to copy my lexicon and style.
I would never pollute my expression by lowering my lexicon and style to your level. I prefer to make coherent, intelligible points.

The USA has the most money and most billionaires.
... and the list goes on.

In all global statistical measures of happiness and quality of life,
Nope. European welfare states generate miserly like no others. The misery per wealth ratio is sky high.

In the US, by contrast, the only misery is what foreigners bring and what Democrats and other Leftists impose. Europeans are always so angry and bitter, explaining why it took an American-brokered NATO to finally bring peace to a continent eternally at war. If we hadn't ended WWII for you, you'd all be speaking German and would all still be as miserable and angry as Hitler.

I'll tell you what, you keep all your misery that you call "globally statistical happiness" and we'll just keep our actual happiness, ... and all our wealth and success.

See-ya, wouldn't wann be-ya.
 
I agree. It helps to think of the nation the way you might think of a single individual. You can have great wealth but still be discontent and unhappy.
Always projecting. You clearly want us to know that you are miserable. I think we got it.

Have you tried relocating to Europe? You'd fit right in.


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I would never pollute my expression by lowering my lexicon and style to your level. I prefer to make coherent, intelligible points.


... and the list goes on.


Nope. European welfare states generate miserly like no others. The misery per wealth ratio is sky high.

In the US, by contrast, the only misery is what foreigners bring and what Democrats and other Leftists impose. Europeans are always so angry and bitter, explaining why it took an American-brokered NATO to finally bring peace to a continent eternally at war. If we hadn't ended WWII for you, you'd all be speaking German and would all still be as miserable and angry as Hitler.

I'll tell you what, you keep all your misery that you call "globally statistical happiness" and we'll just keep our actual happiness, ... and all our wealth and success.

See-ya, wouldn't wann be-ya.

It is funny how you went from claiming that social welfare democracies are completely and hopelessly inept economically, to backtracking to say they just are not up to snuff compared to USA.

Goal post moving is the sign of a weak argument.

The social welfare democracies of northern and western Europe are the most successful socioeconomic systems in human history.

And this is proven by how people actually feel about them.

USA barely cracks the top 20 countries on a happiness and quality of life index. The countries of northern and western Europe dominate the top 10 happiest countries.

Ranked: The 20 Happiest Countries In The World
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo.../03/20/ranked-20-happiest-countries-2020/amp/
 
I can't answer that without knowing what he uses his social media feed for. Is it to network with his parishioners, share similar political views, and find new members? Is it just his personal opinions that he keeps out of the pulpit? Is he using his position as a recognized (tax-exempt) religious leader to promote political candidates and issues on social media?

If it's just his personal page for family/friends I'd say that's fine, just his views. But if he's using his status as a pastor for political purposes, then tax him good.

On Instagram especially, but also on Facebook and Twitter, he went through a couple month period where he was posting about Justice for Breanna Taylor on a daily basis along with 'Say Her Name', he'd post regularly about #BLM, he'd post about supporting protests and No Justice No Peace, he post against white supremacy, he'd post a lot about Ibram Kendi and anti-racism.

On Facebook he'd post about Trump a bit. The other day he posted the NY Times article about his taxes and commented that Trump isn't the business man he claims to be.

So clearly he's a left-wing activist. I guess the question then is should activism equate with losing tax exempt status?
 
It is funny how you went from claiming that social welfare democracies are completely and hopelessly inept economically, to backtracking to say they just are not up to snuff compared to USA.
Nope. You're a Brit, yes? English isn't your first language so I don't expect you to fully understand what I wrote. I'll try to make it easy for you:

1. Social Democrats have no economics acumen.
2. Europeans are not a happy lot. They merely survive to breed the next generation.
3. Meanwhile, we enjoy life over here in the US.
4. Europe certainly doesn't compare to the US.

The social welfare democracies of northern and western Europe are the most successful socioeconomic systems in human history.
They are miserable failures. They could have been amazing nations like the US but couldn't pull it off. Don't worry, the founders of the US were a unique bunch; a group like them doesn't come around every day. The European mindset is a liability that hamstrings all attempts for greatness.

USA barely cracks the top 20 countries on a happiness and quality of life index. The countries of northern and western Europe dominate the top 10 happiest countries.
Sure, if you poll a group of miserable Europeans. Over here in the US, we're not buying your propaganda that we are somehow miserable and that you are somehow happy. Try selling that to someone else.

Ranked: The 20 Happiest Countries In The World
The US is #1. Period. Very few would notice if the European shithole were flushed away. Your attempts to compare Europe to the US are absurd.


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no basis ignorance and self hating

they are A Shanda fur die Goyim

Trump’s Jews Are A Shonda For Di Goyim

https://forward.com/opinion/398811/trumps-jews-are-a-shonda-for-di-goyim/

There are a number of politically conservative Jewish people. It's such an interesting position that you think any Jewish person, or any minority, that is conservative or Republican is self hating. But you never hear that about white people. Why is it white people are allowed to have differing/diverse political viewpoints but minority groups aren't? Talk about putting people in a box, telling them you are to only think or view the world one way or else you hate yourself.
 
On Instagram especially, but also on Facebook and Twitter, he went through a couple month period where he was posting about Justice for Breanna Taylor on a daily basis along with 'Say Her Name', he'd post regularly about #BLM, he'd post about supporting protests and No Justice No Peace, he post against white supremacy, he'd post a lot about Ibram Kendi and anti-racism.

On Facebook he'd post about Trump a bit. The other day he posted the NY Times article about his taxes and commented that Trump isn't the business man he claims to be.

So clearly he's a left-wing activist. I guess the question then is should activism equate with losing tax exempt status?

I think that supporting a cause (relieving hunger, war on drugs, ending abortion, etc.) is different than advocating for or against a particular individual politician or political party. After all, Jesus expected Christians to stand up for what they believe is right. If that guy is merely advocating for groups and causes that in his opinion would be things that Christ would also advocate for, I'd say no to removing the tax-exempt status. Same with the comments about Trump -- as long as he isn't telling parishioners "Don't vote for this guy" but merely pointing out where his behaviors are not Christian. Same with Biden -- if he's telling parishioners to vote for him, his tax-exempt status needs to be looked at and possibly revoked. I don't know what the courts would say if his social media stuff was not connected to the church in any way, but his private opinions.
 

Hope you don't mind if I segue off for a moment. The article you cited was written in March of this year, as the pandemic was really cranking up. This paragraph struck me, and gave me sorrow because we are not like this any more in the United States. Instead of cooperative behavior, we have anti-science anti-mask assholes spreading the plague instead of working together to mitigate it... and one at the very top cheering them on.

"And while it seems like a strange time to be evaluating happiness, the editors of the report point out that challenging times can actually increase happiness. “The global pandemic poses great risks for some of the main supports for well-being, most especially health and income,” the editors explain. “As revealed by earlier studies of earthquakes, floods, storms, tsunamis and even economic crises, a high trust society quite naturally looks for and finds co-operative ways to work together to repair the damage and rebuild better lives. This has led sometimes to surprising increases in happiness in the wake of what might otherwise seem to be unmitigated disasters.

"The reason that people get happier in the fact of disasters? “People are pleasantly surprised by the willingness of their neighbors and their institutions to work in harness to help each other,” the editors write. “This delivers a heightened sense of belonging, and pride in what they have been able to achieve by way of mitigation. These gains are sometimes great enough to compensate for the material losses.”"

I have a number of normally-optimistic friends and family members, as well as myself at times, feeling a lot of depression and despair because of these elements of American society. What happened to us?
 
I can't answer that without knowing what he uses his social media feed for. Is it to network with his parishioners, share similar political views, and find new members? Is it just his personal opinions that he keeps out of the pulpit? Is he using his position as a recognized (tax-exempt) religious leader to promote political candidates and issues on social media?

If it's just his personal page for family/friends I'd say that's fine, just his views. But if he's using his status as a pastor for political purposes, then tax him good.

TBH I don't know how that works and that goes for everyone. If you Tweet for example are you tweeting on behalf of your employer, school, church etc. or just tweeting as an individual? Same with posting on Facebook. He'll also post pictures of his daughter and his family. He'll post about upcoming sermons and what the church is doing in the community. So he's not posting about politics 100% of the time.
 
I think that supporting a cause (relieving hunger, war on drugs, ending abortion, etc.) is different than advocating for or against a particular individual politician or political party. After all, Jesus expected Christians to stand up for what they believe is right. If that guy is merely advocating for groups and causes that in his opinion would be things that Christ would also advocate for, I'd say no to removing the tax-exempt status. Same with the comments about Trump -- as long as he isn't telling parishioners "Don't vote for this guy" but merely pointing out where his behaviors are not Christian. Same with Biden -- if he's telling parishioners to vote for him, his tax-exempt status needs to be looked at and possibly revoked. I don't know what the courts would say if his social media stuff was not connected to the church in any way, but his private opinions.

I definitely agree with your first sentence. As far as my Pastor I don't know if he's specifically said the words "Vote for Joe Biden" but if you read what he's posting it's pretty clear he's saying that without actually saying it.

From my perspective I knew he was politically progressive when we joined the church. That wasn't an issue for me. What I'm not a fan of are the purely partisan political comments like the Trump one above. I'm sure many of us who have Facebook accounts would agree there's a lot of political toxicity on that site. So I'm not a fan of seeing it from my Pastor and seeing my Pastor's page full of partisan bickering.

I don't think our church should lose his tax exempt status because of what he posts though.
 
Hope you don't mind if I segue off for a moment. The article you cited was written in March of this year, as the pandemic was really cranking up. This paragraph struck me, and gave me sorrow because we are not like this any more in the United States. Instead of cooperative behavior, we have anti-science anti-mask assholes spreading the plague instead of working together to mitigate it... and one at the very top cheering them on.

"And while it seems like a strange time to be evaluating happiness, the editors of the report point out that challenging times can actually increase happiness. “The global pandemic poses great risks for some of the main supports for well-being, most especially health and income,” the editors explain. “As revealed by earlier studies of earthquakes, floods, storms, tsunamis and even economic crises, a high trust society quite naturally looks for and finds co-operative ways to work together to repair the damage and rebuild better lives. This has led sometimes to surprising increases in happiness in the wake of what might otherwise seem to be unmitigated disasters.

"The reason that people get happier in the fact of disasters? “People are pleasantly surprised by the willingness of their neighbors and their institutions to work in harness to help each other,” the editors write. “This delivers a heightened sense of belonging, and pride in what they have been able to achieve by way of mitigation. These gains are sometimes great enough to compensate for the material losses.”"

I have a number of normally-optimistic friends and family members, as well as myself at times, feeling a lot of depression and despair because of these elements of American society. What happened to us?

I am sure other societies have their share of divisions. The French are infamous for rioting.

But at least in many liberal social welfare states, their systems are set up to reduce some of the day to day stress Americans have to cope with. Nobody in Denmark has to worry about paying for healthcare, paying for daycare, and those societies are set up to support families, by generous tax supported programs and initiatives.

We cannot even get Republicans to use the power of government to pass economic stimulus or craft a viable and effective national response to a pandemic
 
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