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where it is allowed and is healthcare something that is "traditionally" a government function?
The History of the Democrat Party
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where it is allowed and is healthcare something that is "traditionally" a government function?
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
...or being accurate, since there's nothing democratic about the Democrat party.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Thanks for pointing out the inability of liberals to read and interpret the Founding Documents. The Constitution states what the government can do and any power not mentioned stays with the People. This is stated plainly in the 2nd paragraph of the Declaration of Independence, again in the preamble to the Constitution, again in Amendment IX, and again in Amendment X.
Where is it written exactly how a declaration is acquired? Would the approval to use force by the Congress be the same thing?
That would be Amendment 10... Wherein if it doesn't fit in any of the enumerated powers of the Federal government it would not be something that they would be allowed to muck about in...
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
I can't help noticing that when I mention the Constitution, and specifically the Enumerated Powers, liberals tend to scatter like cockroaches when you turn on the light.
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WinterBorn
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Actually, the 4th amendment against unreasonable search & siezures prohibits much of what is in the patriot act.
The US Constitution, not the executive branch, should be used to determine what is legal or illegal in surveillance.
The US Constitution, not the executive branch, should be used to determine what is legal or illegal in surveillance.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Is there a specific section of the Patriot Act that you have issue with?
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WinterBorn
Guest
The portion that allows internet and phone taps without warrants?
The sections that allow the use of a "national security letter", which in addition to not requiring court approval, forbod the company being targetted from mentioning that the search was made.
The portions of the act that allow search warrants without showing probable cause.
Those are some of the issues I have with what was done under the guise of the Patriot Act.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Phone taps on who?
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WinterBorn
Guest
On American citizens.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Talking with who?
SmarterthanYou
rebel
try telling that to the last 145 years of federal courts. I've been trying to and it falls on the deaf ears of republicans and democrats alike.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
doesn't matter.
charver
You lookin' at my pint?
A person designated by the government which you despise as being a terrorist?
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WinterBorn
Guest
That does not matter at all.
"Amendment IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
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WinterBorn
Guest
Because both parties, regardless of what either one says, are far more interested in increasing their power than in upholding the US Constitution.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Actually it matters very much. Why not answer the question?
SmarterthanYou
rebel
which specific question are you referring to?
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WinterBorn
Guest
No, it does not matter at all. What matters is that the requirements of the 4th amendment of the US Constitution are not being met.
Try reading this again:
"Amendment IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
It does not mention any exceptions concerning who is being communicated with. It says "no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized".