the true face the anti-Obama movement

Yurt said:
her statement is not true. i call race card when it is played...not when there is actual racism. also...when using one incident to paint the whole right or obama's opposition as racist...is playing the race card.
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race card (this quote) 2 times. Good call Christiefan.

If there is one predictable thing about Yurt, he is predictable.
 
Every time I get into one these debates over slickass propaganda, it gets me labeled as a bigot...so lets get on with it....

Lets look at Mr. Hardball...
I don't know if Trump is right in saying that "no one comes foreward to say they knew Obama as a classmate...is it true? If it is, I'd think it strange to0....shit, hes the POTUS, I would think anyone that could truthfully say "they knew him when" would be excited to tell anyone that would listen all about it......so how many folks have come forward ?....grade school, high school, 3 colleges, and law school....there should be at least hundreds.....
so does Trump have a point ? No for me to say, but its not racist....

Mr. Hardball says that Trump is claiming that Obama isn't the guy he says he is....thats just a lie....thats not what Trump said at all....thats just Mr. HardAss's perception from the far, far left.....Trumps words speak for themselves, literally....they don't need to distorted by Mr. Hardass, who seems to imagine nefarious alternate meanings to Trumps questions....

Buchanan....?
Buchanan starts by stating in unambiguous language, Obama was born in Hawaii and is a US citizen....then states the very same, exact, question posed by Matthews himself a scant few weeks ago....exactly the same.....then
Hes is saying, there are no records for the public to see to guide their conclusions....
No one can make definitive judgements without some history to guide them....
Could Obama have benefited from AA....who the hell can positively say....
I doubt it, he seems intelligent enough to me.....but again, I don't know....

Mr. Hardass defines 'birthers' as anyone that has questions....ironic, since he himself espoused questions himself....either he is one of them or his definition is woefully unjust and expedient....

AS if now, the BC has been made public and questions from Trump, Matthews, and Buchanan should be put to rest once and for all.....

Sally Kern....
The subject in the video is blacks in prison.....
says IN HER 20 YEAR EXPERIENCE AS A TEACHER some black kids just don't want to work in school.....which she implys leads to committing crime and ending up in prison.....is that so hard to believe ?
If the subject was whites in prison the story might have been slightly different....
Its not racist to see a problem and to state that problem with truth as you see it....
and its stupid to ignore a problem because its not 'politically correct"......

I see nothing racist in either video......
As for Kerns apology.....its to be expected, Republicans always cave in.....pc wins over truth every time in this day and age and thats the reason the problems are never addressed....and continue

Now if you're just gonna play the race card and call me a bigot, get on with it and keep it short....skip the song and dance.....
 
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Rember when the NG records for Bush were still not public, ....the lies, the distortions, the nutty tales of his service that prevailed......
Then Bush gave permission to release everything, EVERYTHING and the stories quickly died.....and one star of the media was disgraced in the process
Though their are sill some diehards that believe what they NEED to, to continue their prejudices...

Its the same with Obama....the longer he refuses to release his records and actively fights to keep them secret, the more the lies, the distortions, the nutty tales of his life will continue....

Thats as sure as God made little green apples.....and its not racist.....and can be easily stopped....
 
SmarterThanYou said:
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Sorry Annie, but teabagger's have been video documented spewing all types of similar racist guff at their Freedomworks sponsored rallies in the last two years.
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yeah, which of course said actions defines every single tea party person in the world. Nope, just the assholes who openly demonstated their bigotry with signs and words, those who applause for the latter and those who make excuses for them. I'm sure you also apply that to every leftist/progressive that has spewed 'old white man' crap at those who are conservatives, See previous response and the same for every christian individual out there that the leftist/progressive claims are heathen evangelicals. See previous responseyou do apply that standard to everyone, right?
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Wrong as usual.
 
bravo said:
Rember when the NG records for Bush were still not public, ....the lies, the distortions, the nutty tales of his service that prevailed......
Then Bush gave permission to release everything, EVERYTHING and the stories quickly died.....and one star of the media was disgraced in the process

Your revisionism is astounding. What actually happened was that a star reporter was fired because a COPY of a document was presented as authentic, unbeknowst to him....the INFORMATION of that copy was NEVER disproven, as corroborated by the secretary who was responsible for typing up such documents from that period. And what died was the Shrub's last year in office with a piss poor approval rating. That the Shrub was NOT given permission for a long period leave is a FACT...... the superior officer that corroborated this has never changed his story. And the man who greased the wheels for the Shrub to get into the Nat'l Guard in the first place has NEVER changed his story.

Though their are sill some diehards that believe what they NEED to, to continue their prejudices...

That Bravo refuses to acknowledge ALL the facts is testament to his prejudice.

Its the same with Obama....the longer he refuses to release his records and actively fights to keep them secret, the more the lies, the distortions, the nutty tales of his life will continue....

Reality check: Obama was elected President...he was vetted LONG before the birther BS started (two states, State Dept., Secret Service for over 40 years), and when he presented documents that Hawaii validated (used by all Hawaiian citizens) birther assholes just rejected it and grasped another straw. Birthers have NO jurisdiction other than just making loud noise....all this should have died when the courts killed Bergs bids. But hey, let's blame Obama for not indulging the whims of bitter losers and bigots immediately a second time....until it was time to put a stop to all the nonsense.
Thats as sure as God made little green apples.....and its not racist.....and can be easily stopped....
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As sure as Obama just killed a favorite neocon talking point and shamed all the idiots defending it....as sure as Buchanan and Kern demonstrate the mindset of many in the birther, teabagger, oather, etc. groups....bitter and stubborn fools like Bravo will be shoveling neocon shit to shore up the failed talking points.
 
bravo said:
Every time I get into one these debates over slickass propaganda, it gets me labeled as a bigot...so lets get on with it....

Another long and drawn out diatribe by our intellectually bankrupt Bravo to try and excuse/justify racisma and bigotry
Lets look at Mr. Hardball...
I don't know if Trump is right in saying that "no one comes foreward to say they knew Obama as a classmate...is it true? If it is, I'd think it strange to0....shit, hes the POTUS, I would think anyone that could truthfully say "they knew him when" would be excited to tell anyone that would listen all about it......so how many folks have come forward ?....grade school, high school, 3 colleges, and law school....there should be at least hundreds.....
so does Trump have a point ? No for me to say, but its not racist....

Bravo is correct in saying he doesn't know and it's not for him to say.....Trump throws out some assinine generalization on the false premise that now that Obama's President, everyone that knows him should testify on television that he attended the schools. Well gee, I would think his SCHOOL RECORDS AND DIPLOMAS would have done that. And since to this date I haven't seen Harvard administrators come forth and say, "No, he didnt' attend", Trump is just braying like an ass. Remember folks, Obama was a Senator before he became President....so he was VETTED......School records are easy to check, so unless there's some grand conspiracy a'la Tom Clancy, only a complete asshole or some dunce with an axe to grind or some bigot would entertain Trumps silliness.

Mr. Hardball says that Trump is claiming that Obama isn't the guy he says he is....thats just a lie....thats not what Trump said at all....thats just Mr. HardAss's perception from the far, far left.....Trumps words speak for themselves, literally....they don't need to distorted by Mr. Hardass, who seems to imagine nefarious alternate meanings to Trumps questions....

Here we see Bravo playing dumber than he is (I hope) by pretending that there are no logical conclusions to Trumps insinuations. Why the hell would you question the man's ENTIRE academic history unless you are asserting that maybe the man is a PHONY?!? Since when the hell do you require testimony from old students to verify attendence from of your academic past? As Matthews put it to Buchanan, should the President be required to constantly carry around boxes of affidavits, records, etc. to consistently prove his identity, WTF is this, Iron Curtain Germany? Nazi-ism? Did slave and free states get reinitiated?

Buchanan....?
Buchanan starts by stating in unambiguous language, Obama was born in Hawaii and is a US citizen....then states the very same, exact, question posed by Matthews himself a scant few weeks ago....exactly the same.....then
Hes is saying, there are no records for the public to see to guide their conclusions....
No one can make definitive judgements without some history to guide them....
Could Obama have benefited from AA....who the hell can positively say....
I doubt it, he seems intelligent enough to me.....but again, I don't know....

See above responses...and what Bravo leaves out is that the questions he refers to came with Matthews pointing out that he would like to see a lot of things just out of curiosity, but he doesn't HAVE to see Obama's various records other than what has already been shown (remember, this was BEFORE Obama kicked Trumps ass and killed the birther BS), and Matthews reminded Buchanan that no one asked for all of his papers to get his job, and the same went for Matthews. Note that Matthews kept asking why should Obama be put to such absurd requirements...the FIRST President to be subjected to such demands!

Mr. Hardass defines 'birthers' as anyone that has questions....ironic, since he himself espoused questions himself....either he is one of them or his definition is woefully unjust and expedient....

Bravo LIES....Matthews was very direct about what the birthers were demanding and why their demands are absurd being given past valid documentation presented.

AS if now, the BC has been made public and questions from Trump, Matthews, and Buchanan should be put to rest once and for all.....

More of Bravo's revisionist clap-trap....Matthews was interviewing that Buchanan, who was spewing all types of nonsense due to Trump breathing new life into the birther BS. Matthews called Buchanan to task, and all Buchanan could do was bluff and bluster while SUPPORTING the new absurd and racially tinged clap trap for failed birthers to grasp.

Sally Kern....
The subject in the video is blacks in prison.....

Wrong....the discussion was about affirmative action...Kern was giving her views as to why it's wrong and how black kids end up in prison.
says IN HER 20 YEAR EXPERIENCE AS A TEACHER some black kids just don't want to work in school.....which she implys leads to committing crime and ending up in prison.....is that so hard to believe ?

Because she's offering her "experience"...a vague recollection that insinuates "some" black kids negative attiudes and silliness represent enough of the black population to kill affirmative action.

If the subject was whites in prison the story might have been slightly different....

If were to buy into a bunch of supposition and conjecture as fact, yeah. But rational, intelligent adults don't just take tales at face value...especially when there is a hell of a lot more fact based, researched evidence throughtout the nation to the contrary.

Its not racist to see a problem and to state that problem with truth as you see it....

yeah, that's what Klansmen say all the time....and neo-Nazi's, guys who beat their wives, blacks who hate whites, Asians who hate hispanics, etc., etc. ....trick is that they never are able to supply facts to support their clap trap that stands up to scrutiny

and its stupid to ignore a problem because its not 'politically correct"......

Again, Bravo interjects his opinion as if it's fact.....the problem was being addressed...Kern just threw in age old disproven bigotry to paint an entire group of people in order to influence the vote.

I see nothing racist in either video......

No surprise there.....I wonder if Bravo got a load of Kerns views on women in the work place...

As for Kerns apology.....its to be expected, Republicans always cave in.....pc wins over truth every time in this day and age and thats the reason the problems are never addressed....and continue

Again, Bravo doesn't know WTF he's talking about, but that's never stopped him before. Yeah, let's just take one asshole's opinion to kill a program based on her own limited experience tale sans documentation..let's have one persons bias go unchallenged and accept her wholesale slandering of ALL people of a particular race. Funny that Bravo has bitched in the past against anyone labeling all teabaggers as bigots because of the actions of a few, yet here he is reversing his stance because it's about black people. No surprise there.

Now if you're just gonna play the race card and call me a bigot, get on with it and keep it short....skip the song and dance.....
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Maybe Bravo should spare us his overdrawn and moronic attempts to look intelligent while defending/excusing bigotry and racism, and take his own advice.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Wrong as usual.
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it's not wrong as usual when you clearly intend to make ZERO distinction between those of a group who do yell racist epithets and those who don't, at least not until later when you're called out on it.
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You're a liar....you cannot provide one post in it's entirety that has me stating in no uncertain terms what you accuse me of here. Bottom line: like the intellectual coward you are, you only reply to one part of my previous response, and avoid what you cannot logically and factually refute or disprove.

Once again, our teabagging buffoon proves what a joke his screen name is.

Obama to birthers....checkmate! Suck on that STY!
 
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Did you get the long song and dance, with an overdose of irrelevant shit unrelated to my points or just the bottom line ??? Probably the short and sweet version with a "thanks" from Christiefan....
I really care.....:lol:.......not....
 
Taichiliberal said:
Neither I or the people in both videos are talking about marxism. Obviously, Liberty needs an adult he trusts to help him comprehend what's going on....either that or he's just another anti-Obama wonk who's hopping to another false accusation like a flea on a hot plate.
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I'm not talking about the videos.

You're focus here is to give another one of our communist pres some form of credibility.

He's a communist, marxist, socialist, progressive, neocon,,,,,,,,, Taichiliberal.

And you defend him.

When someone's running down the street naked, and you act like it's not happening, or it's not real,,,,,, people tend to notice you more than the idiot running down the street naked.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Sorry Annie, but teabagger's have been video documented spewing all types of similar racist guff at their Freedomworks sponsored rallies in the last two years....
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If you want to be truthful, take out the word "teabagger's", and replace it with "lazy union workers" in many of their own events.
 
Taichiliberal said:
You're a liar....you cannot provide one post in it's entirety that has me stating in no uncertain terms what you accuse me of here. Bottom line: like the intellectual coward you are, you only reply to one part of my previous response, and avoid what you cannot logically and factually refute or disprove.

Once again, our teabagging buffoon proves what a joke his screen name is.

Obama to birthers....checkmate! Suck on that STY!
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http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...e-the-anti-Obama-movement&p=807217#post807217
 
Sally Kern....
The subject in the video is blacks in prison..... says IN HER 20 YEAR EXPERIENCE AS A TEACHER some black kids just don't want to work in school.....
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I'll bet in her 20 year experience as a teacher some white kids just don't want to work in school, either, so why didn't she mention them?

which she implys leads to committing crime and ending up in prison.....is that so hard to believe ?
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Does she apply the same theory to whites who commit crimes and end up in prison?

If the subject was whites in prison the story might have been slightly different....
Its not racist to see a problem and to state that problem with truth as you see it....
and its stupid to ignore a problem because its not 'politically correct"....
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If she's talking about kids studying hard and staying in school she has no business bringing in race. "They didn't want to work hard, they wanted it given to them, the government's going to give it to me..." The stupid bitch is perpetuating a negative stereotype about intelligence, laziness and crime, and all you can say is "Its not racist to see a problem and to state that problem with truth as you see it...."

I see nothing racist in either video...
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No surprise there.

As for Kerns apology.....its to be expected, Republicans always cave in.....pc wins over truth every time in this day and age and thats the reason the problems are never addressed....and continue...

Now if you're just gonna play the race card and call me a bigot, get on with it and keep it short....skip the song and dance.....
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You're a bigot. It's the truth as I see it and you said there's nothing wrong with that.
 
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Did you get the long song and dance, with an overdose of irrelevant shit unrelated to my points or just the bottom line ??? Probably the short and sweet version with a "thanks" from Christiefan....
I really care.....:lol:.......not....
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Hey folks, how many times has this moronic Bravo taken time and effort to construct some 6th grade retort and then state that he doesn't care and what I post doesn't matter? As the chronology of the posts always shows, Bravo can't debate worth a damn.

I mean, how fucking stupid is Bravo to tell people that he doesn't read the responses or information people provide in a discussion, and then at the same time claim it's irrelevant?

Once again, our intellectually impotent Bravo shoots a blank....I gues the pressure of Obama kicking birther's ass was too much for him. Back to the barstool with Bravo.
 
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