They Are Coming To Take Your Squirell Gun Away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SmarterthanYou said:
so you're a brainwashed buffoon that thinks cops receive extensive training, yet excuse their random acts of violence and murder as they go about their duties of their profession because they have to make split second decisions. talk about fucked up.
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Can you take the spoon out of my mouth after you put words in in it you fucking joke of a human? You are a fucking clown, you are an expert at fondling balls probably.
 
OCA said:
Really? You actually found reliable results on Tombstone because I was sending you out on a wild goose chase....I smell B.S.

And what do you believe is responsible for the reduction in the murder rate? I bet I can guess your answer although there will be no direct correlation.

What do you believe to be the reason for the increase in mass shootings? I.E. Columbine, Aurora, Newtown etc. etc. etc.
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The most deaths any, that's any at all, "old west" town saw was 5 in a year. In a year.... I think even you'll trust the source, it's Stanford.

http://west.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/pager.php?id=18
 
Of course the rates were much higher per capita in Tombstone than they were in Baltimore in 2008, however they had stricter gun laws. You had to check in your gun with the Sheriff, and could face massive fines.

And one fact is usually ignored: Back then, Tombstone had far stricter gun control than it does today. In fact, the American West's most infamous gun battle erupted when the marshal tried to enforce a local ordinance that barred carrying firearms in public. A judge had fined one of the victims $25 earlier that day for packing a pistol.

"You could wear your gun into town, but you had to check it at the sheriff's office or the Grand Hotel, and you couldn't pick it up again until you were leaving town," said Bob Boze Bell, executive editor of True West Magazine, which celebrates the Old West. "It was an effort to control the violence."

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jan/23/nation/la-na-tombstone-20110123
 
Attila the Hun said:
The deadliest year in Tombstone saw 2 deaths. I know for a fact Australia sees more than that. Additionally Australia hasn't seen a reduction in murder in quite some time. However our murder rate has been dropping since....92 I believe. Early 90's anyways.
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Um, even if your number on Tombstone is correct - Australia has a lot more people than Tombstone ever did. Try again.

The two graphs below show how the rates of firearm homicide and firearm suicide have varied in Australia over the period 1915 to 2006. More recent figures (up to 2009) suggest that the rates remain near 0.1 per 100,000 of population for firearm homicide and 0.8 per 100,000 of population for firearm suicide.
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http://guncontrol.org.au/


US - 3.6 per 100,000 for homicide and 6.3 per 100,000 for suicide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_ratehttp://

10.5 per 100K total for US; 1.06 per 100K total for Australia. (same wikipedia link)
 
tekkychick said:
Um, even if your number on Tombstone is correct - Australia has a lot more people than Tombstone ever did. Try again.


http://guncontrol.org.au/


US - 3.6 per 100,000 for homicide and 6.3 per 100,000 for suicide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_ratehttp://

10.5 per 100K total for US; 1.06 per 100K total for Australia. (same wikipedia link)
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I said murder total. Death by baseball bat or.knife is the same a gun but anti freedom advocates never want the TOTAL deaths displayed.
 
OCA said:
I didn't say expert at picking up Johns down at the Radisson bar.
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Yes, stellar debate tactic displayed here. Surely you have some evidence to support your assertion that cops are experts with firearms.
 
Damocles said:
Of course the rates were much higher per capita in Tombstone than they were in Baltimore in 2008, however they had stricter gun laws. You had to check in your gun with the Sheriff, and could face massive fines.

And one fact is usually ignored: Back then, Tombstone had far stricter gun control than it does today. In fact, the American West's most infamous gun battle erupted when the marshal tried to enforce a local ordinance that barred carrying firearms in public. A judge had fined one of the victims $25 earlier that day for packing a pistol.

"You could wear your gun into town, but you had to check it at the sheriff's office or the Grand Hotel, and you couldn't pick it up again until you were leaving town," said Bob Boze Bell, executive editor of True West Magazine, which celebrates the Old West. "It was an effort to control the violence."

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jan/23/nation/la-na-tombstone-20110123
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Thanks, Damo, that was useful.
 
OCA said:
No you mean you get loads shot on you by cops, there fixed it for ya....you owe me.
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Yeah, it takes the skill that only a cop has to shoot over 200 rounds into a pickup at people delivering the news paper and still have them manage to wound no one.

Cops are not experts (at least not because they are cops).
 
OCA said:
So private citizens are experts? And no....thats not all the training they get unless you live in some podunk backwater with a force of 5.
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Yeah, Detroit is kinda a unknown city. I doubt you've ever heard of it.

And yes, private citizens (most especially myself) are experts.
 
OCA said:
Really? You actually found reliable results on Tombstone because I was sending you out on a wild goose chase....I smell B.S.

And what do you believe is responsible for the reduction in the murder rate? I bet I can guess your answer although there will be no direct correlation.

What do you believe to be the reason for the increase in mass shootings? I.E. Columbine, Aurora, Newtown etc. etc. etc.
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So basically you just like pulling shit out of your ass and trying to present it as fact; all in an attempt to see if you can catch someone in something.

No wonder you've been banned so many times and it's because you're just an ass. :)
 
OCA said:
Can you take the spoon out of my mouth after you put words in in it you fucking joke of a human? You are a fucking clown, you are an expert at fondling balls probably.
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You seem only interested in going out for a walk around the neighbourhood.

:trollave:
 
Clovis said:
Yeah, Detroit is kinda a unknown city. I doubt you've ever heard of it.

And yes, private citizens (most especially myself) are experts.
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Well hopefully you aren't one of those private citizen "experts" who leaves the guns laying around and his 6 yr old whacks his buddy with it, you know the story we see almost weekly in America,

And you wouldn't mind showing me your card that says "private citizen, arms expert", right?
 
Clovis said:
Yes, stellar debate tactic displayed here. Surely you have some evidence to support your assertion that cops are experts with firearms.
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I give as good as I get, if someone wants to roll in the mud then I jump in, if they want to stay pristine then I stay pristine.
 
Clovis said:
Yeah, it takes the skill that only a cop has to shoot over 200 rounds into a pickup at people delivering the news paper and still have them manage to wound no one.

Cops are not experts (at least not because they are cops).
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Whats that like 1 incident? And I really didn't even hear about that and I do want to believe you are telling the truth so could you link me to that story so I know you aren't just blowing smoke up my ass?
 
OCA said:
Well hopefully you aren't one of those private citizen "experts" who leaves the guns laying around and his 6 yr old whacks his buddy with it, you know the story we see almost weekly in America,

And you wouldn't mind showing me your card that says "private citizen, arms expert", right?
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You mean my FFL? Sure I'll give you that information if you have business with me. Or maybe my 3rd award expert badge from the USMC, or my machine gun instructors certificate, or the specs for last dozen guns I've built or the bucket of brass from my last range session, or maybe my awards for competition shooting?
 
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