Trump was unable to understand national security threats

T. A. Gardner said:
Also, by how closely he hews to the dogma and expectations of the radical Left. Even if he miserably fails at something, everything, so long as the intent was to follow the dogma of the radical Left, like on environmentalism, or open borders, or support of Leftist regimes, Biden will be seen as 'competent' by his most ardent supporters and much of the MSM.
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Competency is essentially a comparative thing; one is "competent" in comparison to others attempting the same task. In football, one is not a competent back by gaining yards (or scoring touchdowns) EVERY carry, but rather by gaining yards (and scoring touchdowns) at a sufficiently greater average than others attempting to play the position.

Competency as a CEO is much harder to determine...as is competency as a judge or legislator teacher...or janitor, for that matter.

Compared with Trump (which is what is happening here in this thread), Joe Biden is masterfully competent as a president, except to the stooges who still fall for the bullshit thrown by that miserable excuse for a human being, Trump.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Competency is essentially a comparative thing; one is "competent" in comparison to others attempting the same task. In football, one is not a competent back by gaining yards (or scoring touchdowns) EVERY carry, but rather by gaining yards (and scoring touchdowns) at a sufficiently greater average than others attempting to play the position.

Competency as a CEO is much harder to determine...as is competency as a judge or legislator teacher...or janitor, for that matter.

Compared with Trump (which is what is happening here in this thread), Joe Biden is masterfully competent as a president, except to the stooges who still fall for the bullshit thrown by that miserable excuse for a human being, Trump.
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No. Competence is results based. If you are a competent surgeon, your patients survive. If not, they die. Competence is generally measurable and objective, not subjective. A competent judge follows the laws, as written, and interprets facts sifting them from opinion, in making decisions. A teacher's competence can be measured by testing and other measures that show whether students mastered certain objectives the teacher was supposed to convey to them. A janitor is deemed competent by measurable cleanliness standards.

Competency as a CEO is measured by objective standards too. Stock value goes up. Profitability. Producing goods and services in a timely manner and in sufficient quantity.

What you are doing is weaseling out of wanting to objectively measuring Presidential success based on observed results in favor of subjective opinion that has nothing to do with competence and everything to do with personal opinion and popularity. Biden is fucking incompetent.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Could be. But getting votes doesn't equate to popularity...as much as it equates to competence at getting votes.

Joe Biden is great at that. Very competent.
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That too is untrue in our two-party system. A good chunk of the country votes for the party not the candidate. Another sizable chunk votes against one party or the other choosing the alternative simply because they don't agree with the party being voted against. That doesn't mean they are for the party they voted for, but rather they chose the lesser of two evils.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
No. Competence is results based. If you are a competent surgeon, your patients survive. If not, they die.
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Bullshit. A surgeon can be very competent...and still have the patient die.

You know that...but I guess you have to stretch now.

Bad stretch.



Competence is generally measurable and objective, not subjective.
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Competence is almost entirely subjective...especially when discussing politics, which is what we are doing, TA.

You people subjectively think Trump was competent and Biden is not. Lots on my side subjectively think Trump was totally incompetent and Biden much more competent.

Stop stretching. You are gonna hurt yourself.

A competent judge follows the laws, as written, and interprets facts sifting them from opinion, in making decisions. A teacher's competence can be measured by testing and other measures that show whether students mastered certain objectives the teacher was supposed to convey to them. A janitor is deemed competent by measurable cleanliness standards.
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Once again...those doing the "deeming" are offering subjective analysis.

You are going to pull a muscle.

Competency as a CEO is measured by objective standards too. Stock value goes up. Profitability. Producing goods and services in a timely manner and in sufficient quantity.
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In your dreams. CEO's have been rewarded with raises although they have posted earnings losses.

https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/when-ceos-are-paid-bad-performance
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/24/business/ceos-pandemic-compensation.html
https://hbr.org/1990/05/ceo-incentives-its-not-how-much-you-pay-but-how

What you are doing is weaseling out of wanting to objectively measuring Presidential success based on observed results in favor of subjective opinion that has nothing to do with competence and everything to do with personal opinion and popularity. Biden is fucking incompetent.
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I do not weasel out of anything...and I am not interested in your subjective impressions of the competency of Joe Biden (a fairly competent individual in my estimation) or the total incompetency of Trump (one of the most incompetent pork fuckers ever), because I think your competency at evaluating presidential competency is abysmal.

Hope you are having a good day, though, TA.

I certainly am.

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T. A. Gardner said:
That too is untrue in our two-party system. A good chunk of the country votes for the party not the candidate. Another sizable chunk votes against one party or the other choosing the alternative simply because they don't agree with the party being voted against. That doesn't mean they are for the party they voted for, but rather they chose the lesser of two evils.
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Choose...is the operative word.

You just want to argue...and you are not particularly good at it.

But I am enjoying your attempts...no matter how feeble.

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Nordberg said:
If you think 23 miles is a lot of wall. But then, the wall is all show. It is tunneled under, climbed over, walked around, flown over, and boated around. You are suckered by Trump's lies again.
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You're just making shit up again. Illegals crossing the border don't need to tunnel under (they don't for the new wall) or climb over it (they don't for the new wall), generally don't have aircraft, and there is no water in the Arizona and New Mexico deserts for a boat.

Hundreds of miles of wall were built by Trump DESPITE Democrats trying to stop it.
Joe Biden stopped construction on the wall and is failing to secure the border. He has committed yet another act of treason by encouraging invasion, most of which crosses the Rio Grand, where no wall is yet built.
 
Guille said:
Yeah, especially when GOP governors are bussing illegals into the interior of the country. The GOP is a fucking joke.
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Just to 'sanctuary cities', since Biden prevents them from sending these illegals back into Mexico or from enforcing the border crossing.
This is caused by Biden and DEMOCRATS, not the GOP. The GOP is just putting the DEMOCRATS' problem in their face so they actually have to deal with it.

The southern border has collapsed. That is purely the DEMOCRATS and Biden.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Yeah...Trump started a great wall across the southern border also.
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If you want to call it that. He did it despite the Democrats. The Democrats want an open border (no border). This is what we now have, and now there is unchecked invasion. This is an act of treason by Biden.
Frank Apisa said:
BOTTOM LINE is exactly what I said it is: Trump promised to get us out of Afghanistan...AND DID NOT. Joe Biden promised to get us out of Afghanistan...AND DID.
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Biden gave weapons and supplies to the enemy in time of war. That's also an act of treason. A lot of people US citizens died because of this act as well.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Competency is essentially a comparative thing; one is "competent" in comparison to others attempting the same task. In football, one is not a competent back by gaining yards (or scoring touchdowns) EVERY carry, but rather by gaining yards (and scoring touchdowns) at a sufficiently greater average than others attempting to play the position.

Competency as a CEO is much harder to determine...as is competency as a judge or legislator teacher...or janitor, for that matter.

Compared with Trump (which is what is happening here in this thread), Joe Biden is masterfully competent as a president, except to the stooges who still fall for the bullshit thrown by that miserable excuse for a human being, Trump.
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Biden is not President.
 
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