Ukraine invades Russia

ExpressLane said:
So Moon is now a MAGA. Nope we don't want him. Слава Україні!
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You are voting for a presidential candidate who signals he is abandoning Ukraine, and can almost never bring himself to say anything bad about Putin,
And a VP candidate who openly said he doesn't care what happens to Ukraine and voted against giving them military aid
 
Althea said:
Many strategists don't believe this use of manpower is wise as Russia is making advances elsewhere. As you know, I wanted them to do this from the jump.

Now we get to see if Putin will use nukes (he won't)

I believe they want Russians to see exactly what Putin's war is about and change their perception.
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A sound analysis
 
anonymoose said:
Only because Stalin wanted to colonize Eastern Europe, which he did until the collapse of the Soviet empire.
Churchill did not want to colonize Russia, only keep their aggression at bay.
It would not have been wrong to go to war against Russia at that time but everyone was war weary.
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Our buffers versus their buffers. The Russians gave up their buffers, naively. Now look at the result.
 

Ukraine’s Kursk Offensive Blitzed Russia With Electronic Warfare And Drones​


A rapid Ukrainian advance starting August 6th has taken Russia – and Western analysts — by surprise , pushing deep into enemy territory and threatening the city of Kursk.

The offensive has gained more territory in a few days than the Russians have in months. And while it is difficult to tell exactly what is happening, success seems to have been achieved by mastery of a new style of warfare.

First, they brought down Russia’s screen of aircraft-type reconnaissance drones, effectively blinding commanders to what was happening. This may have been done by new interceptor FPVs linked to air-defence radar.

Secondly, under cover of the temporary observation blackout, short-range jammers were brought forward to the front line. These were programmed with data previously gleaned from electronic warfare reconnaissance.


www.forbes.com

Ukraine’s Kursk Offensive Blitzed Russia With Electronic Warfare And Drones

Ukraine's offensive seems to have achieved breakthrough using massed jammers to knock out Russian drones combined with massed drone power to break Russian lines.
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anonymoose said:
American generals are in the black about this. They are curious.
My source from Armenia and another from Georgia tell me the Zelenskiys are getting significant help from Russian insurgents.
This coming from two sources unrelated and unknown to each other.
"The lack of a coherent Russian response to the Ukrainian incursion into the Kursk region and the reported rate of Ukrainian advance indicates that Ukrainian forces were able to achieve operational surprise along the border with Russia." Hmm.
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The F16s are finally arriving in Ukraine I wonder if they will help achieve air superiority. Russia seems to not be able to control the sky.
 
moon said:
Our buffers versus their buffers. The Russians gave up their buffers, naively. Now look at the result.
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Russia is not entitled to colonies and vassal states.

Ukrainians, Poles, Lithuanians never invaded, nor threatened to invade Russia.
 

‘Furious battles are underway’: Kursk residents call on Putin for help after Ukrainian incursion​


CNN —
Ukrainian forces are pushing further into the Kursk region of Russia, in a cross-border incursion that surprised even American officials, multiple US and Ukrainian officials tell CNN.

Ukrainian forces are comprised of a mix of Ukrainian regular and special operations units, unlike previous Ukrainian operations inside Russia that often involved undercover units and local sympathizers.

The intention, say US and Ukrainian officials, is multifaceted, in part to disrupt and demoralize Russian forces and in part to divert Russian forces away from other parts of the eastern front. US officials do not believe Ukraine intends to hold Russian territory for the long-term.

Russia claimed on Thursday to have halted a Ukrainian incursion into its territory, but later said that some battles are ongoing in the Kursk region.

Kursk residents, who live in the Sudzhansky District, recorded a video address to Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday asking for his help, saying he has been misinformed about the situation on the ground and the Russian Defense Ministry’s statements about things being under control are untrue.

The address was published on a local Telegram channel that is dedicated to covering the latest news out of the town of Sudzha in Kursk region, which has been under Ukrainian attack for several days.

“These lies enable the local residents to die. The Chief of the General staff recently told you that the situation is under control, but today huge furious battles are underway in the Sudzhansky and Korenevsky districts,” one of the residents said.

“Sudzha was attacked, turned into ruins in a matter of hours. Local administration wasn’t working,” another resident said.



 
moon said:
It was. Back in 2014 John McCain- and other undesirables- fomented a coup to oust the Russia-friendly president. He fled. The Azov brigades- neo-Nazis as the Russians call them- attacked the eastern regions of Russia-friendly Ukraine for eight years, killing many thousands.
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Who shed a tear when McCain went to hell?
 
moon said:
It was. Back in 2014 John McCain- and other undesirables- fomented a coup to oust the Russia-friendly president. He fled. The Azov brigades- neo-Nazis as the Russians call them- attacked the eastern regions of Russia-friendly Ukraine for eight years, killing many thousands.
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Provide credible sources from mainstream media proving that the American government actively planned, hatched, and implemented a coup to replace the goverment in Ukraine.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
My grapevine is saying that the Ukrainians are increasingly upset about these sorts of suicide missions designed for propaganda purposes....all the way up to refusing orders.

Life is cheap in Ukraine.
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Your grapevine consists of psychotic wingnuts on Twitter/X. MY grapevine is a Ukrainian-American citizen who says exactly the opposite of your Putin дезинформация.
 
anonymoose said:
You saying they did threaten to invade Russia or that Russia is entitled to colonize sovreign countries?
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Me ? No. Cypress claims that Russia intended to COLONIZE parts of Europe. Utter nonsense. Russia is the largest country on earth. The Russians had buffer states, not colonies, buffer states that they liberated from Nazism.
 
Cypress said:
So you have no credible proof that the US specifically hatched, plotted, and executed a coup in Ukraine.
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The obvious doesn't require proof;

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www.theguardian.com

John McCain tells Ukraine protesters: 'We are here to support your just cause'

Senator in Ukraine to support pro-EU protests as crowds demonstrate against president's pro-Russian stance
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moon said:
The obvious doesn't require proof;

McCain.jpg



www.theguardian.com

John McCain tells Ukraine protesters: 'We are here to support your just cause'

Senator in Ukraine to support pro-EU protests as crowds demonstrate against president's pro-Russian stance
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Sympathizing with protesters is not proof of a coup plotted and hatched by the American government.

We were sympathetic to the Tianemam square protestors and cheered them on, but America did not plot or hatch the Tianemam protest
 
Cypress said:
Sympathizing with protesters is not proof of a coup plotted and hatched by the American government.

We were sympathetic to the Tianemam square protestors and cheered them on, but America did not plot or hatch the Tianemam protest
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We didn't stand in Tiananmen Square and urge revolt. Your rebuttal fails.
We don't know who was managing McCain- but we do know that McCain was managing the coup.

Who do you think was McCain's " WE " ?

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